PDF files produced with Atlantis: Page breaks

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Moonlight
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PDF files produced with Atlantis: Page breaks

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When creating a PDF-file from a doc-file there is always a lot of white space at the page breaks. (Not only when the PDF is created by Atlantis but in general):

Page break - white space.jpg
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In order to remove this white space I use a practical feature in the "PDF-XChange Editor" ("Crop Pages" with the crop method "Remove Vertical White Space").

Depending on the program (converter) with which the PDF-file was produced, there may arise the following problem:

When the page break coincides with a blank space (I mean the space which exists typically between between two paragraphs), after the cropping this blank space is also lost. And of course this result is undesired.

Here are two examples:

Lost Blank Space-1.jpg
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Lost Blank Space-2.jpg
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If you compare it with the "original" (= uncropped) PDF-file or with the doc-file, you can see that at these spots there should be a blank space.

As mentioned, it depends on the converter if this issue occurs or if the blank space is kept as it should. (E.g. in PDF files created by go4convert.com the blank space is preserved.) Unfortunately the problem occurs with the PDF files created with Atlantis 5. (And it has not to do specifically with SumatraPDF as viewer. The PDFs are displayed in the same way e.g. in the PDF-XChange Editor.)

So please could you check if this situation can be changed?

Thanks in advance.

PS: I attach the Atlantis-PDF-file after being cropped with PDF-XChange Editor. The uncropped Atlantis-PDF-file and the doc-file are the same as the ones I uploaded in the other topic concerning the hyperlinks: viewtopic.php?t=2696
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Re: PDF files produced with Atlantis: Page breaks

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Here are two examples how the environment of a page break shoud look like after cropping, when in the original file there is blank space at this point (PDF-file produced with go4convert.com, cropped with PDF-XChange Editor - see attachment):

Atlanis-Test-go4-cropped-1.jpg
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(The places of the page break are not exactly the same as the ones in the PDF-file created by Atlantis. So you cannot compare these spots directly. There is always a difference of 2-3 lines between the files of e.g. go4convert and Atlantis.)
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Re: PDF files produced with Atlantis: Page breaks

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I have no idea how PDF-XChange Editor decides what to crop. There are no paragraphs in PDF documents, and there is no such thing as “space after a paragraph” as well. I am not aware of a method to mark blank space at the bottom of a page in a PDF document as “non-croppable”.
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Re: PDF files produced with Atlantis: Page breaks

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O.k. That's no good news. But thank you for your reply.
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