assigning the language via style, format brush or hotkey

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Leopoldus
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assigning the language via style, format brush or hotkey

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Hi

I'd wish to find out any way to easily assign a certain language to currently selected text or to the current word or paragraph. But it seems, that none of approach gives such opportunity. Styles properties and format brush properties have not language options at all. An there is no option to assign a hotkey for a certain language too (although it is possible to assign a hotkey for the default language).

Well, the only solution I was able to find is to assign a hotkey for calling languages list dialog and then navigate inside it by the first letter of th language name. Is there any more direct/convenient way?

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The only way I know is to use the language history drop-down attached to the “Language” toolbar button.
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Robert wrote:The only way I know is to use the language history drop-down attached to the “Language” toolbar button.
Thank you Robert!
Seems, that there is lack of functionality here. Would admin be so kind to consider adding:
1) language attribute to the properties of a style (and may be of a Format brush as well), as it is implemented in MS Word since version 2003
2) ability to assign a custom hotkey for a specific language?
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I am sorry, but it is unlikely that paragraph styles in Atlantis Word Processor will include "language". In the nearest future at least.
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admin wrote:I am sorry, but it is unlikely that paragraph styles in Atlantis Word Processor will include "language". In the nearest future at least.
Thank you for fast and direct answer. Well, I think, we can live without it.

Would it be correct to conclude, that implementing of my feature request nr 2 (ability to assign a custom hotkey for a specific language) is possible in the nearest future?

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To clear the situation completely: what about adding a "language" attribute to the text and/or paragraph properties of the Format Brush?
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Strictly speaking, "language" is not a formatting, although it is associated with text runs/fragments in document files similarly to "bold", "strikeout", or "font size". The only purpose of the "language" formatting is to choose a correct set of proofing tools.

The "Language" command is offered under the "Format" menu in Atlantis. There are reasons for this. But maybe it would be more correct to have it under the "Tools" menu.
Would it be correct to conclude, that implementing of my feature request nr 2 (ability to assign a custom hotkey for a specific language) is possible in the nearest future?
Can you give a scenario under which such hot keys would be needed?
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Would it be correct to conclude, that implementing of my feature request nr 2 (ability to assign a custom hotkey for a specific language) is possible in the nearest future?
Can you give a scenario under which such hot keys would be needed?
Hm... That's a bit surprising question, I thought, that the thing is rather obvious. Imagine, that you are working with a multilingual document. Well, you paste some text fragments from clipboard or write them manually - and the language attribute, which the added text gets, depends of many different factors (see here: http://www.atlantiswordprocessor.com/en ... php?t=1769).

Say, for me a document with text fragments of the three different language is quite usual. Thus, if we a bit simplify the arithmetics, there is 1/3 probability, that you new text will get the correct language attribute, but 2/3 probability, that it will get the wrong one. So you often need to assign the correct language attribute manually. But there is no currently any fast and convenient way to assign an attribute for a specific language to the selection neither to the current word or paragraph.

Strictly speaking, "language" is not a formatting, although it is associated with text runs/fragments in document files similarly to "bold", "strikeout", or "font size". The only purpose of the "language" formatting is to choose a correct set of proofing tools.
Yes, that's clear enough. The question is not about exact terms, but it concerns the conceptual approach. It would be really nice to have an option to assign a language attribute as a part of the style.
Well, I admit, that it is not so important, but for example MS Word does allow to assign a language as a part of a style properties at least since version MS Office XP.

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MS Word does allow to assign a language as a part of a style properties at least since version MS Office XP.
Adding a feature just because another product has it, is unserious.
Say, for me a document with text fragments of the three different language is quite usual.
OK, I understand that it is usual for you. But how many users have to work on documents in three languages? In other words, how common your case is? You should not expect "one-click-away" features for exotic/uncommon situations. It is a completely normal thing when you have to make more clicks or key presses in order to perform an "uncommon" operation. If each and every feature was "one-key-press-away" or "one-mouse-click-away", the GUI would be cluttered with many options which are just relevant for one user out of tens of thousands.

Atlantis Word Processor already offers plenty of options for those who need to work on multilingual documents.

Only 2 mouse clicks are needed to switch to one of three languages for the document selection. Just right-click the "Language" section of the Atlantis status bar, then (left-)click one of the languages from the language history list.

Things are also pretty simple and convenient if you prefer applying languages through the keyboard. First, assign a hot key to the "Format | Language..." menu command. Press your hot key. Alternatively, press Alt+O,L, a hot key based on the default keyboard accelerators of the "Format | Language..." menu command. Then press the Home key to make sure that the language history is in view. Choose the desired language from the list (you might need to press the Down arrow key once or twice), then press Enter. I find this a very convenient solution for a very uncommon situation.
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