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add to dictionary option

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Hi,
I use the "add to dictionary option a lot, esspecially with names in my story. I cannot however add the unknown names when they are in this format: André's, or Gina's, etc. I think this is called a possesive form? Anyway, I only have the option in the dialog to add new names like this with a capital letter at the end, or the whole new word in small letters, and that is not how I want it. How do I solve this?

greetings,
André
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Re: Add to Dictionary

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Hi, André
The Atlantis spellchecker, like all good spellcheckers, is programed so that it can identify "possessive" forms automatically. So you don't need to add new names to your custom dictionary in any other form than their original form.

For example, there is no need to add forms like "Gina's" or "Socrates'" to your custom dictionary. Simply add "Gina" and "Socrates". Following this, Atlantis will automatically recognize such forms as "Gina's dog" or "Socrates' pupils" as correct English forms.

Let's take another example.

Let's suppose that the name "Tess" is missing from the current Atlantis lexicon.

Let's suppose that you type "Tess's cat".

The Atlantis spellchecker will red-underline "Tess's" as a potentially incorrect spelling.

Now if you right-click "Tess's" in the document window, and choose "Add to Dictionary" from the pop-up context menu, Atlantis will automatically add "Tess" (not "Tess's") to your custom dictionary. Following this, Atlantis will no longer report "Tess's" as potentially misspelt.

So in the future, do not worry about the possessive forms appended to names. Simply right-click the red-underlined form, and choose "Add to Dictionary" from the pop-up context menu. Atlantis will take care of the rest.

Of course, before you add a word to your custom dictionary, always check that it is correctly spelt in the first place!

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Post by Andremusic »

Hi,
I tried what you did, but it doesn't work with me. I tried for example Gina's and it is red underlined, even after putting Gina in the dictionary. Maybe I use the wrong apostrophe?

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What is the language of your document? Is it English?
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No, I am using the dutch spell checker.

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Hi, André
Do you mean to say that you are using the Dutch spellchecker to check English text? Or are you checking Dutch text with the Dutch spellchecker? Are possessives like "Diana's" also used by the Dutch language? Do Dutch possessives behave in exactly the same way as they do in English?
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Hi!
I am using the dutch spell checker to check dutch text. I am writing in Dutch. And in dutch, the possessives are not always the same as in english. When a word ends on a open sounds, like André, or Gina, then the possessive is André's or Gina's. But when it ends on a closed sound ( I don't know the exact words for them...), they end like this: Peters, Franks. When the word ends on a s-sounds (like on an s or x), the possessive form is: Hans', bus', etc. So only an apostrophe.

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Post by Robert »

André,
Here is from http://www.nt2examen.nl/grammar-pronoun ... ossessives:
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Indicating possession (apostrophe s) The man's name.
Piets vrouw heet Pauline. Piet's wife is called Pauline.
Marius' fiets is stuk. Marius' bike is broken.
De tuin van zijn vader is prachtig. His father's garden is fabulous.

S is only used after a first name and do not need apostrophe ' if the before word ends with s, thus Marius' fiets. In all other cases to expression with van, e.g. De auto van meneer Smid. But you can also use van with first name, but not formal, e.g. De auto van Marius.
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This is much simpler than what you say. You say that words ending with an "open" sound take "apostrophe+s", and words ending with a "closed" sound take only "s". Words ending with s-sounds take only an apostrophe.
The problem is that spellcheckers cannot check "sounds". They can only check "graphemes", that is letters from the alphabet. So would it be right to say that in Dutch
1. names ending with a vowel take "apostrophe+s" (André's),
2. names ending with a consonant take a "s" (Franks),
2. names ending with a s or x sound take an "apostrophe" (Hans')?
There remains the problem of semi-vowels (w, y). Are there semi-vowels in Dutch, and how do they behave in final position to indicate possession?
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No, I am using the dutch spell checker.
There is a bug in the "Add to Dictionary" dialog regarding non-English texts. You are right: wrong case patterns are suggested if a non-English document word includes apostrophes. A fix will be included in any next version of Atlantis. If you try adding "Gina's" to the dictionary in the next version of Atlantis, you would get suggestions as on the attached picture.

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Thanks so much for your quick fix!

André
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