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You guys are making yourself look stupid.

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I love Atlantis, I just tried it and I am never going back to what I used before... But, I have a small complaint. In your help index, under encryption, you state the following:

Encryption in Atlantis is very secure. Atlantis uses 256-bit keys. Hackers would require billions and billions of years with all the computers of the world to crack your document.

This is so wrong I on so many levels. Sure, an encryption option is nice to have with a word processor, but come on, telling people it would take billions of years with all the computers in the world to crack, is that a joke? And 256-bit keys are hardly secure anymore.

I can crack a 256-bit key encryption in less that one day on my 1.4ghz computer, and I am no hacker.

Anyway, unless you want people to believe such a stupid thing, I would recommend changing it to something like, 256-bit encryption with help protect those important documents from co-works, etc...
subigo@hotmail.com

You guys are making yourself look stupid.

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subigo@hotmail.com wrote: I can crack a 256-bit key encryption in less that one day on my 1.4ghz computer, and I am no hacker.
Subigo, it's your wife!, please come back home, you forget to take your Prozac :lol:
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Re: You guys are making yourself look stupid.

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subigo@hotmail.com wrote: I love Atlantis, I just tried it and I am never going back to what I used before... But, I have a small complaint. In your help index, under encryption, you state the following:

Encryption in Atlantis is very secure. Atlantis uses 256-bit keys. Hackers would require billions and billions of years with all the computers of the world to crack your document.

This is so wrong I on so many levels. Sure, an encryption option is nice to have with a word processor, but come on, telling people it would take billions of years with all the computers in the world to crack, is that a joke? And 256-bit keys are hardly secure anymore.

I can crack a 256-bit key encryption in less that one day on my 1.4ghz computer, and I am no hacker.

Anyway, unless you want people to believe such a stupid thing, I would recommend changing it to something like, 256-bit encryption with help protect those important documents from co-works, etc...
Hi!
So you say that you can crack a 256 bit key single-handedly within one single day on your single 1.4 GHz PC?

OK. Prove it then. Send us (comment@rssol.com) or post a source code in any programming language for a utility that will crack a 256 bit key in one single day on a single 1.4 GHz PC. We'll test it and publish the results. Alternatively, we could send you an encrypted test document for you to crack. Of course, we will be the only ones to know which password was used and what are the exact contents of that document. Your job would be to crack that document within one single day of receiving it. What do you say to this? If you ever managed to crack that document, we would offer you a free lifetime registration for Atlantis.

But let's be SERIOUS!

First, let's put aside decrypting itself. Let's just consider the sheer computational problem of cracking a 256 bit key on a single 1.4 GHz PC within a single day. Let's talk basic mathematics.

To crack a 256 bit key, your PC or more exactly your CPU needs to be able to count from 1 to N. In our case (with 256 bits), N is a VERY big number.

On a 1.4 GHz PC, the CPU has a heartbeat rate of 1.4 billion a second.

Let's take a basic assembly code for a binary counter with a regular increment of 1:

ADD counter,1

This simple instruction will do COUNTER=COUNTER+1 and will take 1.4 billions of a second on our 1.4 GHz PC.

Consequently, our counter will be incremented 1.4 billion each second.

IMPORTANT: NOTE that this is the time required to do a simple addition with the most basic assembly counter. As far as actual encryption is concerned, encrypting a single byte normally requires 100, 200, or even 300 assembly instructions.

Now as you must know 256 bits=2 to the power of 256= 1.1579208923731619542357098500869e+77 (i.e. 1.1579208923731619542357098500869 followed by 77 zeros).

So if we divide the above figure by 1.4 billion, we will get the time required to count up to the biggest 256 bit number. This gives us:

8.2708635169511568159693560720491e+67 seconds.

As there are about 31 536 000 seconds in a year, simply counting up to that biggest 256 bit number would take billions and billions of years...

And this would not decrypt any key. This would only count up to the biggest 256 bit figure.

Decrypting the key to a protected document would take much much longer. Longer than words can tell...

Have a nice Christmas!

Cheers
Robert
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mmm
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Hi, everybody!

The last few postings on this thread contained nothing else than personal attacks and did not address any of the specifics of the original postings.
I am sure everybody will understand that this thread was going in a direction that cannot be approved of on any Forum. Consequently these personal attacks have been removed from the current thread.
We hope that everybody will understand and remember that constructive criticism always includes detailed and technical descriptions of what you find incorrect and why. Well-argued postings are a lot more helpful than direct attacks on personality or raw abuse. Flaming someone publicly on the net is bad netiquette and a complete waste of everybody’s time.

May the peace and happiness of the Joyous Season be with you always!
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