Document Bar: exact position on the bottom

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Document Bar: exact position on the bottom

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A request for a small correction. Surely not of big importance but because of logical reasons it is a bit annoying as it is now. :P

When the Document Bar is positioned on the bottom it is shown above the Status Bar.

That's not logical as the Status Bar refers to the document which is shown in the editor window whereas the function of the Document Bar has no immediate connection with this window.

So could you please change the order? -> Document Bar under the Status Bar:

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I personally do not think that the alignment of these GUI elements needs to be changed. Multiple reasons for this. First, the “status bar” visual control in Windows is supposed to be the bottommost element in the window. The standard “status bar” control of Windows even has a “sizing grip” that is supposed to coincide with the bottom right corner of the resizable host window. Second, the “status bar” in Atlantis includes multiple sections that are not document-specific (“Color mode”, “Notifications”, and partially the “Spellcheck status”). Third, switching between documents via the Document Bar is a more common task than interacting with the status bar. In many applications, the status bar sections are not even clickable. So having the Document Bar closer to the screen center is more preferable. Fourth, displaying the Document bar too close to the Windows Taskbar may be a source of additional confusion. Finally, in my personal opinion, the status bar just does not look good when put in the middle of the window. Even its background color does not fit well in your suggested location, at least under the default configuration.
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Re: Document Bar: exact position on the bottom

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I would agree with the Admin on this.

Personally, I like the way it looks now, and I really do not see a truly logical connection between the name of a file and the superior or inferior position of an information bar. If anything, it seems better to put that bar at the bottom, because the bar includes various types of helpful information. I think it would be awkward not to put it at the bottom of the screen, where it is visible but out of the way.

I will say that I am glad that Moonlight brought the subject up. I wondered why his graphic showed "Abschnitt" where my Atlantis shows "Page" and I would have expected German "Seite" for "Page". I never knew that you could click on that little window and get other locations, like "Paragraph/Abschnitt" and "Section". Really good thing to know. Vielen Dank, Moonlight!
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Re: Document Bar: exact position on the bottom

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You are welcome, rstroud.

Thanks to both of you for your comments about the subject. My opinion concerning the position of the two bars is still a different one, but the matter is not so important to insist with counterarguments etc.

Concerning "Abschnitt" vs. "Seite" ("Section" vs. "Page"):
rstroud wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:16 pm I wondered why his graphic showed "Abschnitt" where my Atlantis shows "Page" and I would have expected German "Seite" for "Page". I never knew that you could click on that little window and get other locations, like "Paragraph/Abschnitt" and "Section".
I must admit that (until now) I did not give much attention to the status bar (though I regard its existence as very important) and I have placed there only a few elements. But now as you mentioned it, indeed it is strange that I can find no information about the page (where the cursor is placed).

That's how the specific German terms in the list of the elements look like:

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All my documents have only one section (Abschnitt) but sometimes hundreds of pages (Seiten). Nevertheless wherever my cursor (caret position) may be, the entry in the status bar remains "Sec 1/1" = "Abschnitt 1/1" (whereas the information about the Line (Zeile) changes in the correct way when I change the cursor position).

Perhaps Admin could take a look if this is a bug?

Personally I would need no information at all about the section (Abschnitt) (as I have not more than one :wink: ) but (only) about the page (Seite) where I am with the cursor (obviously the way it seems to work for rstroud).

Clicking the little window also does not help as in the dropdown list there is no option for "Page" respectively "Seite":

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(Below "Footnote" only comes "Endnote" and "Table".)
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There are no pages in the document in Atlantis under the Draft view. The first two sections of the status bar work differently depending on the current view mode (Draft or Print Layout).

Most sections of the status bar in Atlantis are clickable and have an associated action. Some have a special right-click action (like the first two sections when the document has bookmarks). You can check the popup hints of these sections.
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Ah, I see. - I always use the Draft view.
admin wrote: Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:12 am There are no pages in the document in Atlantis under the Draft view. The first two sections of the status bar work differently depending on the current view mode (Draft or Print Layout).
Because of technical limitations or as a deliberate decision?
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Deliberate, I suppose. The Draft view mode in Atlantis has always worked this way. Under this mode, Atlantis treats the document as a continuous flow of content without page breaks.
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O.k. Thanks.
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