New Beta - Possible bug encountered & Suggestions

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andygrunt
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New Beta - Possible bug encountered & Suggestions

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Just had a dodgy moment when I was typing away in Atlantis (using the new Beta version) and was stopped by the following dialogue box appearing:

"Exception
Access violation at 004019FF in Atlantis.exe"

I was able to ok the box and save my doc (didn't lose a word). I exited and restarted Atlantis and all seems fine but I thought you might find that information of use?


Also, having now seen the 'Writing Speed' feature in action, I have a question and couple of suggestions regarding it. How is the Writing time and speed data linked to the document? If I move or rename a doc will the info still be 'attached'?

Suggestions for 'Writing Speed'.

1 - I'd prefer it was measured in words rather than characters - perhaps right clicking on it could include the option to toggle between the two units?

2 - How about also being able to toggle to other settings such as:
- Estimated time until a target word count is reached (based on your performance to this point)
- Total Words in total editing time
- Words per hour/day/week/month (as well as per minute)

3 - When I paste a chuck of text in, the new characters/words don't seem to be included in the total as I think it should be (it's all part of the writing process after all).

4 - I hope there's an 'Are you sure' type obstacle if you accidentally click the 'Rest Writing Time/Speed' option. I don't want to reset them (even at this early stage) so I don't want to risk trying it just to see.
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Just had a dodgy moment when I was typing away in Atlantis (using the new Beta version) and was stopped by the following dialogue box appearing...
Thanks for the error text, but regrettably that error address cannot be used to track down the problem. It would be great if that error was reproducible on any system, and you sent us instructions for reproducing the problem.
How is the Writing time and speed data linked to the document? If I move or rename a doc will the info still be 'attached'?
All information about writing time & speed is stored by Atlantis in the Windows Registry (or in an INI file if you have chosen that global option). So this information is not stored within a document file. If you "rename" a document file in Atlantis through the "File | Save As..." menu command, the "Writing time & speed" info will be automatically associated with a new document file.
I'd prefer it was measured in words rather than characters.
I am not sure that it would be possible to measure writing speed in words. At least such speed information would not be accurate. It would not be easy (in some cases it would be impossible) to track reliably and synchronize the "start typing" and "end typing" events for individual words. In any case, it is not hard to find out your approximate writing speed in words if you know your writing speed in characters. Average word length in English is 5 characters. So just divide your writing speed in characters by 5, and you would have your approximate writing speed in words.
When I paste a chuck of text in, the new characters/words don't seem to be included in the total as I think it should be.
As for me, it is quite arguable that pasted text should be included in writing speed. If things worked in the way you suggest, pasting a big chunk of text would radically change the reported writing speed. I am not sure that such information would be of much use. Actually "writing speed" in Atlantis means "typing speed".
I hope there's an 'Are you sure' type obstacle if you accidentally click the 'Rest Writing Time/Speed' option.
Currently there is no "are you sure" confirmation message when you click these commands. First, the writing time & speed is not information of critical importance. Second, it is quite hard to click any of these two commands accidentally. I am not sure that it is possible to perform the following actions by accident: right-clicking the "Writing time & speed" status bar sections, moving the mouse pointer towards the commands of the popup menu, and finally left-clicking one of these commands.
But possibly having a confirmation message for the "Reset writing time & speed for ALL documents" command would make sense. This command can be clicked accidentally when you actually wanted to click another "less destructive" command from this menu.
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admin wrote:Thanks for the error text, but regrettably that error address cannot be used to track down the problem. It would be great if that error was reproducible on any system, and you sent us instructions for reproducing the problem.
Unfortunately, I can only report the error message that appeared. There are no steps I can share to reproduce the problem as all I was doing was typing, as I mentioned. I'd been typing for several minutes i.e. not doing anything special. I'd been typing for the same amount of time before and after with no ill effects. I realise it's difficult to track any such problem down but assumed informing you of my experience might be helpful.
admin wrote: If you "rename" a document file in Atlantis through the "File | Save As..." menu command, the "Writing time & speed" info will be automatically associated with a new document file.
Thanks for clearing that up. Can I suggest including that info in the 'Typing Speed' section of the manual? I often move files manually and would have come a croper if I'd not known that.
admin wrote: I am not sure that it would be possible to measure writing speed in words. At least such speed information would not be accurate. It would not be easy (in some cases it would be impossible) to track reliably and synchronize the "start typing" and "end typing" events for individual words. In any case, it is not hard to find out your approximate writing speed in words if you know your writing speed in characters. Average word length in English is 5 characters. So just divide your writing speed in characters by 5, and you would have your approximate writing speed in words.
I was assuming it wouldn't be difficult to do as the word count is always known and could be used to make that calculation. Perhaps you could use your rule of 'average word length is 5 characters' so base it on that? Not 100% accurate but better than nothing.

It never feels right to me to have to do somethig manually when the computer sitting in front of me can do it so much quicker and easier.
admin wrote: As for me, it is quite arguable that pasted text should be included in writing speed.
Yes, I can see many people would take this view - fair enough.
admin wrote: Currently there is no "are you sure" confirmation message when you click these commands. First, the writing time & speed is not information of critical importance. Second, it is quite hard to click any of these two commands accidentally.
Actually, I was thinking along the lines of this being more of a problem if extra options were added here as per my previous suggestion. I would say, though, that even if it's not 'critical' information, for a user who uses this feature it could well be very important to them and so worth adding the 'are you sure' confirmation (assuming it can't be undone without it).
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