A mess, after "proposed corrections" in Word

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A mess, after "proposed corrections" in Word

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I wrote an article in Atlantis. Another person corrected it (“corrections “on”) in Word 2003.
When I opened it in Atlantis again, it seemed to be messed-up: text, written in one-column appeared at once in 2 columns .
The second problem: that what was corrected, ment to be red. In Atlantis it was just black as all the other text.
It brought me to two burning questions:
1. Can the disappearence of the colour and the appearance of the columns be avoided?
2. Can “proposed corrections” be implemented in Atlantis?

Thanks in advance.

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Could you send your document to support@AtlantisWordProcessor.com, or attach it to your forum post?
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I tried to send you the file, after proposed corrections in red or blue, corrected in Word 2003. But it was too large. I'll send it another way to admin.
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Do you mean that your document is too big to be sent by email? Did you try zipping it? How big is the zip file?
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Originaly it was 2,7 Mb. now 210 Kb (???)
So, I try it once more.
(I already sent it to you. Seperately.)
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Thanks for your document. That another person edited it under the "Track changes while editing" feature of MS Word toggled on. When this feature is on, MS Word does not actually delete text from a document but only marks it as deleted. The present version of Atlantis does not have the "Track changes" feature. So when loading a document, Atlantis ignores any text marked as deleted. In your document this led to the problem with columns (Atlantis ignored a deleted section break; this did not allow to load section properties correctly). A provision for such cases will be included in any next build of Atlantis (please see a link to the latest build of Atlantis below; it loads section properties from your document correctly). Regarding "text in red". There is no "red text" in your document. By default, MS Word highlights fragments marked as "deleted text" or "inserted text" with red font color. Atlantis could not do the same because it does not have the "Track changes" feature.
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Thanks, Admin, thanks very much for your help, attention and partly solutions of my problem.
If I understand you well, all in Word proposed corrections are accepted in Atlantis 1.6.1.4a9; tables and pictures are shown as they were ment.

The second part of my very first question in this issue is: Is it possible to introduce changes-tracking in Atlantis. I would be obliged.


Greetings.
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I still think it is unbelievable, that almost any problem is solved within a few days. Great!
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Hm, there is another problem. Text disappears. (I hope you can see this) in testdoc3.
tstdoc2 is a printscreen: when I right-click the mouse, while the pointer is in the paragraph, you see: indents right -11,29 cm. That was not ment to be. When I put this to zero, the text re-appears.

Maybe you will also fix this problem in Atlantis?

And again: thanks in advance.

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VJF wrote:Is it possible to introduce changes-tracking in Atlantis. I would be obliged.
"Track changes" is on the wish list. But we could not give you any timetable. In addition, there is some controversy regarding this feature in MS Word (I mean some security- and stability-related aspects).
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VJF wrote:Hm, there is another problem. Text disappears. (I hope you can see this) in testdoc3.
tstdoc2 is a printscreen: when I right-click the mouse, while the pointer is in the paragraph, you see: indents right -11,29 cm. That was not ment to be. When I put this to zero, the text re-appears.

Maybe you will also fix this problem in Atlantis?
The problem is within the document not in Atlantis (in other words, the document has a wrong design). Paragraph's right indent can be negative. But in your document a -11,29 cm right indent makes no sense. You have a 2-column section. So the rightmost 11 cm of the first column are overlapped by the contents of the second column. To fix this, you should check for wrong indents in your document, and correct them (right, you can do this through the "Format | Paragraph…" menu command).
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The problem happened, when I made a neat file with pictures and some columns in Artlantis. Then in Word 2003 they made proposed corrections.
And when I open it now:
1. original text disappeared (that what was corrected)
2. the proposed corrections appeared in just black (no difference between rest of the original text and the (proposed) corrections; as if the corrections were accepted. So far, so acceptable. But:
3. some columns appeared to be partley disappeared because of a sort of indent-shift I never made ! Or Word (Bad Bil), or my corrector (too nice to do this nasty things), or Atlantis made this change.

Maybe you can catch another eye on the subject.

Thanks again.
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1. original text disappeared (that what was corrected)
As I said above, the present version of Atlantis does not have the Track Changes feature. Atlantis does not offer the "original (old) text" and "new text". Only the "new text" is available when you open such a document in Atlantis. In other words, Atlantis displays your document with all the "suggested changes" accepted.
2. the proposed corrections appeared in just black (no difference between rest of the original text and the (proposed) corrections
Again, Atlantis could not highlight "suggested changes" in red because the present version of Atlantis does not have the Track Changes feature.
3. some columns appeared to be partley disappeared because of a sort of indent-shift I never made ! Or Word (Bad Bil), or my corrector (too nice to do this nasty things), or Atlantis made this change.
Atlantis does not make automatic change to the paragraph indents. In your particular case, wrong "right indents" were specified by the author of the original document, or by your corrector. As I already said, you simply need to fix wrong indents manually. There is no fault of Atlantis here.
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Anyway, thanks for your help.
Greetings. Vincnet
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