default language - Associate new text with the following lan

[Leopoldus]

If you open the “Format | Default Language…” dialog, and “Associate all new text with the following language” is unchecked in that dialog, this means that the current document has no default language for Atlantis.

Well, but in this event how Atlantis Word decides, which current language to use by default (if a user has not selected any language manually) and to assign to a new text I enter manually from keyboard?

When a document has no “default language”, the language coding that will automatically be associated with any newly-typed text is the language coding that is indicated on the status bar just before you start typing. This is what is meant by “current” language coding. In Atlantis, “current” language does not necessarily mean “default” language. The “current” language coding can be changed through the “Format | Language…” dialog.

At me this current language selecting works very oddly.
Say, the "default current language" (please see my previous question in this post) is English. Well, I change the current language to "German" via the “Format | Language…” dialog. The word "English" has changed to "German" on the status bar. Fine. Now I type any letter - and it gets immediately "English" language attribute in spite of which language is "current" on the status bar

However when I type any non-letter symbol, say, a figure or some sign (plus, minus, asterisk, brackets etc), it gets the correct current language attribute (Germen in my example).

Can it give you any ideas?

[Robert]

Well, but in this event how Atlantis Word decides, which current language to use by default (if a user has not selected any language manually) and to assign to a new text I enter manually from keyboard?

All documents are built on a template, whether it is the default template or a template that you chose purposefully yourself. All the templates have a “current” language, which Atlantis second-guessed from your system locale, or which you assigned yourself through the “Format | Language…” dialog.

At me this current language selecting works very oddly.
Say, the "default current language" (please see my previous question in this post) is English. Well, I change the current language to "German" via the “Format | Language…” dialog. The word "English" has changed to "German" on the status bar. Fine. Now I type any letter - and it gets immediately "English" language attribute in spite of which language is "current" on the status bar Surprised
However when I type any non-letter symbol, say, a figure or some sign (plus, minus, asterisk, brackets etc), it gets the correct current language attribute (German in my example).
Can it give you any ideas?

Are you sure that “Associate all new text with the following language” is unchecked in the “Format | Default Language…” dialog when you start typing?

Also, is the German spellchecker installed in your Atlantis? Click “Tools | Options…”, display the “Spellcheck” tab, click on the “Spellcheckers & Dictionaries…” button. Is the German spellchecker listed in the “Spellcheckers” box?

Could you please send a sample document where this strange “language coding” business is happening to support@AtlantisWordProcessor.com?

[Leopoldus]

All the templates have a “current” language, which Atlantis second-guessed from your system locale, or which you assigned yourself through the “Format | Language…” dialog.

So if no any default or current language is assigned by a user (for the current document of for the template), Atlantis takes the language attribute from OS regional settings?
That is an answer to my first question, the thing is clear for know, thanks!
Could you specify, which settings from OS regional settings does Atlantis use to detect the user's default language?

Are you sure that “Associate all new text with the following language” is unchecked in the “Format | Default Language…” dialog when you start typing?

Yes, I am.

Also, is the German spellchecker installed in your Atlantis? Is the German spellchecker listed in the “Spellcheckers” box?

Yes, it is.

Could you please send a sample document where this strange “language coding” business is happening to support@AtlantisWordProcessor.com?

I could send some document, but I need to understand, which one is better for studying.
However I'm afraid, that analyzing a document will not help anyway, because we discuss the strange behavior of the application in the process of editing a document. When I save a document as a file, these
oddities will not remain reflected in a RTF-file structure.

[Robert]

When some text is input into a document window, Atlantis has to associate it with some language coding. If no language was specified, Atlantis takes its cue from the “Regional and Language Options” in your Windows system. When a Windows system is installed, “Regional and Language Options” are always specified for the system. You’ll find details on the Windows “Regional and Language Options” and “System Locale” on the following pages:

Change the system locale

Frequently Asked Questions – Locales and Languages

When I save a document as a file, these oddities will not remain reflected in a RTF-file structure.

Maybe, maybe not. Send a sample document so that we can try our luck…

[Leopoldus]

When some text is input into a document window, Atlantis has to associate it with some language coding. If no language was specified, Atlantis takes its cue from the “Regional and Language Options” in your Windows system. When a Windows system is installed, “Regional and Language Options” are always specified for the system.

Yes, I see, thanks. Actually I meant a bit another aspect. There are at least fore different language and region connected settings in Windows XP/7 "Regional and Language Options", one for default keyboard, one for non-Unicode programs, one for formast and one for local services. Which of them does Atlantis use for its purposes?

Send a sample document so that we can try our luck…

OK, I'll try create some document with such behavior for demonstration.

[admin]

Although I am following the thread, I am not sure that I understand the type of document you are creating.

A few notes though:

The "Default Language" is a document-specific characteristic in Atlantis. It is deactivated in documents and templates by default. When you activate the "Default Language" in a document template by checking the "Associate all new text with the following language" box in the "Format | Default Language..." dialog, any new document you create from this template would automatically have the "Default Language" feature enabled. But disabling the "Default Language" in a template would not effect existing documents (including documents that you might have created from this template previously).

So if you enable the "Default Language" feature in a document, any text you type or paste in this document gets ALWAYS associated with the "Default Language" of this document.

Things are more complex when the "Default Language" feature is deactivated in a document (the default scenario). In this case, any text you type in this document gets associated with the current input language of Windows. You can easily add input languages to your Windows, and switch between the installed input languages by pressing the corresponding hot key (in most cases, Ctrl+Shift or Alt+Shift). Please see the following links:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/86 ... emove.html
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... t-language
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... r-overview

So whenever you need to start typing text in a different language, you simply switch to the corresponding input language by pressing the hot key defined in Windows.

But there is one exception to this rule. If the current input language is a Western European language (let's suppose, English), and the current document word is associated with another Western European Language (let's say, German), and you have not just switched to the current input language, any text you type would be associated with the language of the current document word (German, in our case).

Things might be less predictable when you paste text, and the "Default Language" feature is off:

– If you are about to paste "formatted text" (RTF) from the clipboard, the original language(s) stored within the RTF clip get(s) pasted as well.

– If you are about to paste "plain (unformatted) text" from the clipboard, it gets normally associated with the current input language.