Greetings.
I’m a new owner of an Atlantis license, and I think I’m also a new discoverer of an Atlantis bug – or am I?
I noticed the possible bug while typing my first header. I set a center-tab to center my text, and it worked. It allowed me to type centered text right past the margin! Surely that isn’t supposed to happen?
Tabbed Header (and other?) Text Ignores Margin: Bug?
Tabbed Header (and other?) Text Ignores Margin: Bug?
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Center-aligned tabs are supposed to work in this way. They are supposed to center text. Tab stop positions (displayed on the horizontal ruler) take preference over page margins and paragraph indents.
There is nothing wrong with center-aligned tabs in Atlantis. The design of your header is not OK. It would not display correctly, no matter how tabs work in Atlantis. To have your text center-aligned within the header, just move the corresponding tab stop on the ruler to the left:
There is nothing wrong with center-aligned tabs in Atlantis. The design of your header is not OK. It would not display correctly, no matter how tabs work in Atlantis. To have your text center-aligned within the header, just move the corresponding tab stop on the ruler to the left:
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Hi,
Atlantis works in the same way as MS Word in this respect. So it cannot really be regarded as a “bug”. With a center tab stop, the associated text is traditionally centered on the tab stop position. Here is from http://www.briarcliff.edu/departments/c ... 0/Tabs.htm:
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert
Atlantis works in the same way as MS Word in this respect. So it cannot really be regarded as a “bug”. With a center tab stop, the associated text is traditionally centered on the tab stop position. Here is from http://www.briarcliff.edu/departments/c ... 0/Tabs.htm:
It is clear in your TextMaker screen capture that the text of your paragraphs is not centered around the tab stop position. Actually, the tab stop position is constantly shifted to accommodate the right margin. In effect, your TextMaker paragraphs very much look like they are somehow right-aligned from the tab stop position. They are not centered on the tab stop as they should.If you press the tab key before a center tab stop, the cursor will advance to the tab position and the text will be centered below the tab stop. Note that the text will not be centered between margins, but will be centered around the tab stop.
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert
Greetings.
Sorry for my delay in replying, but I have time management issues (among others).
Regarding your kind reply, Robert:
“Atlantis works in the same way as MS Word in this respect. So it cannot really be regarded as a “bug”.
a. Isn’t something that works the same way as any MS product almost the very definition of a “bug”?
b. Atlantis displays the header as an enclosed box, suggesting that it -- like Word, Wordpro, Wordstar for Windows, etc. -- is playing at being a Frame based DTP. Surely nothing is supposed to leak out of frames.
c. College web sites can be a fantastic resource. If I had the time, and if I thought it would be of interest to anyone, I could compile a list of a few quite spiffy resources. I doubt, however, whether any MIS or vocational business departments would appear on my list. For example, I once conducted a minor study on the formatting of business letters. As I recall, of the half dozen (give or take) websites I found, which included one or two college websites, all contradicted each other.
d. While I, personally, do not view the world through Microsoft-colored glasses <g>, MS Word 2003, like TextMaker, doesn’t agree with with Atlantis’ header handling either (see attachment). Didn’t I warn you about trusting business schools? <g>
I might add that I certainly did not intend to suggest that my supplied snippet represented a recommended formatting for a header, nor should it be assumed that I have some obsession with headers. I just thought I’d point out there is a defect (“bug”) in Atlantis that someone might want to correct.
In any case, happy holidays!
Sorry for my delay in replying, but I have time management issues (among others).
Regarding your kind reply, Robert:
“Atlantis works in the same way as MS Word in this respect. So it cannot really be regarded as a “bug”.
a. Isn’t something that works the same way as any MS product almost the very definition of a “bug”?
b. Atlantis displays the header as an enclosed box, suggesting that it -- like Word, Wordpro, Wordstar for Windows, etc. -- is playing at being a Frame based DTP. Surely nothing is supposed to leak out of frames.
c. College web sites can be a fantastic resource. If I had the time, and if I thought it would be of interest to anyone, I could compile a list of a few quite spiffy resources. I doubt, however, whether any MIS or vocational business departments would appear on my list. For example, I once conducted a minor study on the formatting of business letters. As I recall, of the half dozen (give or take) websites I found, which included one or two college websites, all contradicted each other.
d. While I, personally, do not view the world through Microsoft-colored glasses <g>, MS Word 2003, like TextMaker, doesn’t agree with with Atlantis’ header handling either (see attachment). Didn’t I warn you about trusting business schools? <g>
I might add that I certainly did not intend to suggest that my supplied snippet represented a recommended formatting for a header, nor should it be assumed that I have some obsession with headers. I just thought I’d point out there is a defect (“bug”) in Atlantis that someone might want to correct.
In any case, happy holidays!
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Hi,
I don’t know about Word 2003, but Word 2007 works in the same way as Atlantis: text is aligned at the tab stop position. So if you use a tab stop with “center” alignment, you should not expect anything else than a “center” alignment. And if you place a tab stop with “center” alignment close to the right margin or to the edge of the page, you should not be surprised if it does what it is supposed to do, i.e. the text is actually centered, and “displays” beyond the right margin…
There is logic in this.
As I pointed out in my previous post, your TextMaker paragraphs very much look like they are somehow right-aligned from their “center” tab stop position. They are not centered on the tab stop as they should.
If you want to place text close to the right edge of the page, or beyond the header right margin, there is a simple and most natural solution, i.e. use a tab stop with alignment on the right. A “center-aligned” tab stop should not be expected to do anything else than “center” the associated text around its own position.
HTH.
Wishing you all a cheerful and safe Holiday season,
Robert
I don’t know about Word 2003, but Word 2007 works in the same way as Atlantis: text is aligned at the tab stop position. So if you use a tab stop with “center” alignment, you should not expect anything else than a “center” alignment. And if you place a tab stop with “center” alignment close to the right margin or to the edge of the page, you should not be surprised if it does what it is supposed to do, i.e. the text is actually centered, and “displays” beyond the right margin…
There is logic in this.
As I pointed out in my previous post, your TextMaker paragraphs very much look like they are somehow right-aligned from their “center” tab stop position. They are not centered on the tab stop as they should.
If you want to place text close to the right edge of the page, or beyond the header right margin, there is a simple and most natural solution, i.e. use a tab stop with alignment on the right. A “center-aligned” tab stop should not be expected to do anything else than “center” the associated text around its own position.
HTH.
Wishing you all a cheerful and safe Holiday season,
Robert