With a bit of luck I'm getting a new laptop in the near future. After years of using my trusty but steam powered Windows XP pooter, I'm finally going to shuffle into the 21st century with a shiny new laptop running Windows 7. I have a couple of questions in relation to Atlantis...
1 - What do I need to do to copy over all my settings and preferences to the new laptop?
2 - The biggest pain I anticipate, is re-adding all my the documents into my 'favorites' list. Is there a way to reduce the pain of this? It's not the end of the world if I do have to add them manually but thought it was worth asking before doing it.
3 - How do I keep all the 'Writing Time' data intact for my docs?
4 - Is there anything I should know about using Atlantis on Win 7 as opposed to XP? e.g. some things I have to do differently or maybe even, some hints and tips specific to Win 7. I assume there's no difference but, again, thought it best to check.
Thanks,
Andy.
How to move Atlantis to a new computer?
1. Please see the following link for instructions: Migrating to a new PC
2 & 3. If you copy the entire home folder of Atlantis from your old PC to a new one, and import your current Atlantis settings, as explained in the above Help topic, your "Favorites" links and "Writing Time & Speed" data would be also transferred to a new PC. But there is also one extra step required to make this transferred information valid. You should also transfer your documents to a new PC, and put them to exactly the same folders on a new PC (for example, if your "Document.doc" is stored under the "C:\Documents" folder on the old PC, you should put this document file to the "C:\Documents" folder on the new PC as well).
4. You do not need to do anything differently. But please let us know if you experience any difficulties with Atlantis under Windows 7.
2 & 3. If you copy the entire home folder of Atlantis from your old PC to a new one, and import your current Atlantis settings, as explained in the above Help topic, your "Favorites" links and "Writing Time & Speed" data would be also transferred to a new PC. But there is also one extra step required to make this transferred information valid. You should also transfer your documents to a new PC, and put them to exactly the same folders on a new PC (for example, if your "Document.doc" is stored under the "C:\Documents" folder on the old PC, you should put this document file to the "C:\Documents" folder on the new PC as well).
4. You do not need to do anything differently. But please let us know if you experience any difficulties with Atlantis under Windows 7.
Thanks for that link.
At the moment (i.e. on my old/current computer) I have a C: drive and a D: drive. Atlantis is installed in "D:\Program Files\Atlantis" and all of my documents (apart from a couple, perhaps) are stored in various sub folders under "D:\Work"
I assume that when I get my new laptop, it will just have one big drive i.e. 'C:'. Given this, Atlantis will be installed to "C:\Program Files\Atlantis" - will this screw up my old settings when they're copied over?
I had planned to copy over my 'Work' folder from my old laptop to my new one so the only difference in path names would be a 'C:' at the beginning rather than a 'D:'. In this circumstance, will my "Favorites" links and "Writing Time & Speed" data stay intact or disappear?
At the moment (i.e. on my old/current computer) I have a C: drive and a D: drive. Atlantis is installed in "D:\Program Files\Atlantis" and all of my documents (apart from a couple, perhaps) are stored in various sub folders under "D:\Work"
I assume that when I get my new laptop, it will just have one big drive i.e. 'C:'. Given this, Atlantis will be installed to "C:\Program Files\Atlantis" - will this screw up my old settings when they're copied over?
I had planned to copy over my 'Work' folder from my old laptop to my new one so the only difference in path names would be a 'C:' at the beginning rather than a 'D:'. In this circumstance, will my "Favorites" links and "Writing Time & Speed" data stay intact or disappear?
If your document path names on a new PC will be different from the ones on the old PC, the "Favorites" and the "Writing time & speed" data could not be automatically transferred to a new PC. The "Favorites" links will be still available under the home folder of Atlantis on a new PC, but they will not be functional because they are associated with obsolete files.
You can still follow the "migration" instructions. But some of the transferred settings will not work on a new PC.
You can still follow the "migration" instructions. But some of the transferred settings will not work on a new PC.
Hi Andy,
This is not what you expected but it is a workaround of sorts.
* First, regarding your “Favorites” and “Document Folder”, here is what you could do before migrating Atlantis to your new PC:
A. On your old PC,
1. Copy the files in your current “d:\work” folder to a newly-created “c:\work” folder.
2. Copy the file links in your current “D:\Program Files\Atlantis\Favorites” folder to a newly-created “C:\Program Files\Atlantis\Favorites” folder.
2. Launch Atlantis and run “Tools | Options…” On the “Load/Save” tab, then direct Atlantis to use a new “Document Folder” (i.e. “c:\work”). OK out of the dialog.
3. Click “File | Favorites > Organize Favorites…” and in the “Organize Favorites” dialog, direct Atlantis to the new “C:\Program Files\Atlantis\Favorites” folder. OK out of the dialog.
4. In the “Tools | Options…” dialog, press the “Save to File…” button, and save your current Atlantis settings to the home folder of Atlantis on your hard drive (to "D:\Program Files\Atlantis").
5. Copy your newly-created “c:\work” and “C:\Program Files\Atlantis\Favorites” folders to a flash drive.
6. Copy the whole home folder of Atlantis on your system (i.e. "D:\Program Files\Atlantis") to the same flash drive.
B. On your new PC,
1. Install Atlantis using the latest setup available from http://www.atlantiswordprocessor.com/en/downloads.htm. Install Atlantis to “C:\Program Files\Atlantis” on your new PC, complete the setup, but do not launch Atlantis yet.
2. Create a “c:\work” folder on your new PC. Copy the contents of the “c:\work” folder on the flash drive to this new “c:\work” folder on your new PC.
3. Copy the contents of the “C:\Program Files\Atlantis\Favorites” folder from your flash drive to the mirror folder on the new PC.
You should be able to work with Atlantis on your new PC as usual.
* Now regarding the writing time and speed of each document, here is what you could do. This is only a makeshift solution but it seems it is the only one available. This will have to be done for each document whose writing time you want to keep, right before moving them to the new PC.
Open these documents one by one, and bring up their “File | Properties” dialog. For each of them, manually enter the document current writing time in the “Comments” area. OK out of the dialog.
When you work again on these same documents on your new PC, you will know that the writing time displayed on the status bar is a writing time that was reset when the files were moved to the new PC. You will have to add the writing time stored in the file properties.
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert
This is not what you expected but it is a workaround of sorts.
* First, regarding your “Favorites” and “Document Folder”, here is what you could do before migrating Atlantis to your new PC:
A. On your old PC,
1. Copy the files in your current “d:\work” folder to a newly-created “c:\work” folder.
2. Copy the file links in your current “D:\Program Files\Atlantis\Favorites” folder to a newly-created “C:\Program Files\Atlantis\Favorites” folder.
2. Launch Atlantis and run “Tools | Options…” On the “Load/Save” tab, then direct Atlantis to use a new “Document Folder” (i.e. “c:\work”). OK out of the dialog.
3. Click “File | Favorites > Organize Favorites…” and in the “Organize Favorites” dialog, direct Atlantis to the new “C:\Program Files\Atlantis\Favorites” folder. OK out of the dialog.
4. In the “Tools | Options…” dialog, press the “Save to File…” button, and save your current Atlantis settings to the home folder of Atlantis on your hard drive (to "D:\Program Files\Atlantis").
5. Copy your newly-created “c:\work” and “C:\Program Files\Atlantis\Favorites” folders to a flash drive.
6. Copy the whole home folder of Atlantis on your system (i.e. "D:\Program Files\Atlantis") to the same flash drive.
B. On your new PC,
1. Install Atlantis using the latest setup available from http://www.atlantiswordprocessor.com/en/downloads.htm. Install Atlantis to “C:\Program Files\Atlantis” on your new PC, complete the setup, but do not launch Atlantis yet.
2. Create a “c:\work” folder on your new PC. Copy the contents of the “c:\work” folder on the flash drive to this new “c:\work” folder on your new PC.
3. Copy the contents of the “C:\Program Files\Atlantis\Favorites” folder from your flash drive to the mirror folder on the new PC.
You should be able to work with Atlantis on your new PC as usual.
* Now regarding the writing time and speed of each document, here is what you could do. This is only a makeshift solution but it seems it is the only one available. This will have to be done for each document whose writing time you want to keep, right before moving them to the new PC.
Open these documents one by one, and bring up their “File | Properties” dialog. For each of them, manually enter the document current writing time in the “Comments” area. OK out of the dialog.
When you work again on these same documents on your new PC, you will know that the writing time displayed on the status bar is a writing time that was reset when the files were moved to the new PC. You will have to add the writing time stored in the file properties.
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert
Thanks for your suggestions Robert - I'll follow those instructions when I get my new laptop.
It would be nice if it was all automated and easier. Not sure it's worth much development time just for this 'once in a blue moon' situation though.
Still, it would be good if the writing time info was kept intact or, at least, I could manually set the starting time - any chance, admin?
Thanks again Robert.
It would be nice if it was all automated and easier. Not sure it's worth much development time just for this 'once in a blue moon' situation though.
Still, it would be good if the writing time info was kept intact or, at least, I could manually set the starting time - any chance, admin?
Thanks again Robert.
Sorry, Andy, but Atlantis could not guess what to do with the "writing time & speed" data of a missing document file. It could not know that you moved a document file to a different folder or drive.
The step 2 of the Migrating to a new PC Help topic suggests to save the Atlantis settings to an INI file. All the "writing time & speed" data will be stored within this INI file in a compressed form. If you sent your INI file to support@AtlantisWordProcessor.com, I could correct the drive letter of the document filenames within the "writing time & speed" data of your INI file, and send you back the corrected INI file. You could put it to the home folder of Atlantis on your old PC, and proceed with the step 3.
The step 2 of the Migrating to a new PC Help topic suggests to save the Atlantis settings to an INI file. All the "writing time & speed" data will be stored within this INI file in a compressed form. If you sent your INI file to support@AtlantisWordProcessor.com, I could correct the drive letter of the document filenames within the "writing time & speed" data of your INI file, and send you back the corrected INI file. You could put it to the home folder of Atlantis on your old PC, and proceed with the step 3.
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. When I said "It would be nice if it was all automated and easier", I meant the type of thing Robert wrote down as a numbered list i.e. anything to make the move as easy and painless as possible.admin wrote:Sorry, Andy, but Atlantis could not guess what to do with the "writing time & speed" data of a missing document file. It could not know that you moved a document file to a different folder or drive.
Thanks, that's very kind of you. I may take you up on that. I'd be happy to try doing it myself if it was a text file but I guess I can't if it's compressed? Thinking about it, if it was a plain text file, I guess I could also amend the writing time on a doc by editing the ini file (if I ever needed to).admin wrote:If you sent your INI file to support@AtlantisWordProcessor.com, I could correct the drive letter of the document filenames within the "writing time & speed" data of your INI file, and send you back the corrected INI file.
I'm due to get my new laptop tomorrow so the the big move is fast approaching
I sent the ini file to the email address yesterday evening. I just wanted to check it reached you ok and ask if you could give me an idea how long it might take to change the values and get the file back to me?admin wrote: If you sent your INI file to support@AtlantisWordProcessor.com, I could correct the drive letter of the document filenames within the "writing time & speed" data of your INI file, and send you back the corrected INI file.
Sorry to pester but I'm just keen to get Atlantis up and running on my new laptop - Wordpad is most definitely not cutting the mustard compared to Atlantis - you can't even insert hyperlinks!
You must have sent it at the same moment I posted that last message!
Anyway thank you so much for taking the trouble to do that. Atlantis is installed and running on my new laptop right now and the writing time info seems to be intact and working – brilliant!
You did ask me to report any oddities I spotted with how it ran in Windows 7… Well two bits of strangeness have appeared already.
I’d already decided to cull all the entries in my favorites folder (good opportunity for a prune, I eventually decided) so once Atlantis was running, I went to ‘Organize favorites’, ‘View favorites folder’, selected the lot and deleted them. But now when I try to add an open document to my favorites, it doesn’t get added. I tried several times and the favorites folder is still empty. I’ve also restarted Atlantis and get the same result. Before you ask, the favorites folder is located here: C:\Program Files\Atlantis\Favorites
I just used windows file manager to go to ‘C:\Program Files\Atlantis\Favorites’ and manually added a folder and sure enough, that shows up in the favorites list. I then went back to Atlantis and tried to add an open doc as a favorite and the ‘add to favorites’ dialogue box appeared showing the folder. I tried to add the file but when I checked, it still doesn’t appear in the favorites list.
Am I doing something dumb?
Another thing I just noticed. I’m writing this post in Atlantis but rather than make a new doc, I’m using the Clippy Bank. But when I’m in an open doc and press F8, a large dialogue type box flashes up for an instant and disappears too quickly to see any detail but I’m still in my normal doc. Pressing F8 again takes me to the Clippy Bank as normal.
Hang on, now, it’s changed a little. If I press F8 in the clippy bank, I get the flash and am taken to my open doc. When I press F8 there, I’m taken straight back to the clippy bank with no flash.
Nothing major but I thought you’d like to know. I’m using Windows 7 Professional with the Aero theme – not sure if that’s relevant.
Anyway, thanks again.
Anyway thank you so much for taking the trouble to do that. Atlantis is installed and running on my new laptop right now and the writing time info seems to be intact and working – brilliant!
You did ask me to report any oddities I spotted with how it ran in Windows 7… Well two bits of strangeness have appeared already.
I’d already decided to cull all the entries in my favorites folder (good opportunity for a prune, I eventually decided) so once Atlantis was running, I went to ‘Organize favorites’, ‘View favorites folder’, selected the lot and deleted them. But now when I try to add an open document to my favorites, it doesn’t get added. I tried several times and the favorites folder is still empty. I’ve also restarted Atlantis and get the same result. Before you ask, the favorites folder is located here: C:\Program Files\Atlantis\Favorites
I just used windows file manager to go to ‘C:\Program Files\Atlantis\Favorites’ and manually added a folder and sure enough, that shows up in the favorites list. I then went back to Atlantis and tried to add an open doc as a favorite and the ‘add to favorites’ dialogue box appeared showing the folder. I tried to add the file but when I checked, it still doesn’t appear in the favorites list.
Am I doing something dumb?
Another thing I just noticed. I’m writing this post in Atlantis but rather than make a new doc, I’m using the Clippy Bank. But when I’m in an open doc and press F8, a large dialogue type box flashes up for an instant and disappears too quickly to see any detail but I’m still in my normal doc. Pressing F8 again takes me to the Clippy Bank as normal.
Hang on, now, it’s changed a little. If I press F8 in the clippy bank, I get the flash and am taken to my open doc. When I press F8 there, I’m taken straight back to the clippy bank with no flash.
Nothing major but I thought you’d like to know. I’m using Windows 7 Professional with the Aero theme – not sure if that’s relevant.
Anyway, thanks again.
Please see the following link:
The Compatibility Files toolbar button & Files Virtualization in Windows Vista & Windows 7
By the way, you can specify a different location for the Atlantis Favorites. You could create a new folder "Atlantis Favorites" under, let's say, the "My Documents" folder in your Windows, and instruct Atlantis to store "Favorites" under that folder (use the "Browse..." button in the "Organize Favorites" dialog of Atlantis).
The Compatibility Files toolbar button & Files Virtualization in Windows Vista & Windows 7
By the way, you can specify a different location for the Atlantis Favorites. You could create a new folder "Atlantis Favorites" under, let's say, the "My Documents" folder in your Windows, and instruct Atlantis to store "Favorites" under that folder (use the "Browse..." button in the "Organize Favorites" dialog of Atlantis).
Another little oddity I’ve noticed using Atlantis in Windows 7...
I’ve got into the habit of using the ‘Flip 3D’ feature (Windows Key+Tab) which gives a fancy 3D view of all your running applications and you cycle though them to move from one app to another. I’ve noticed that sometimes when I use it, Atlantis doesn’t show as one of the running apps even though it is. It doesn’t seem to matter whether it’s minimised or full screen. It doesn’t happen all the time but I’ve noticed it several times in the week or so, I’ve been using Windows 7.
I always see Atlantis included when I use the more traditional Alt+Tab to move between apps but I haven’t used that enough to be 100% sure it always works – maybe I’ve just been lucky. Also, I’ve not noticed any other apps not appearing when using Flip 3D so assume it’s Atlantis specific.
I’ve got into the habit of using the ‘Flip 3D’ feature (Windows Key+Tab) which gives a fancy 3D view of all your running applications and you cycle though them to move from one app to another. I’ve noticed that sometimes when I use it, Atlantis doesn’t show as one of the running apps even though it is. It doesn’t seem to matter whether it’s minimised or full screen. It doesn’t happen all the time but I’ve noticed it several times in the week or so, I’ve been using Windows 7.
I always see Atlantis included when I use the more traditional Alt+Tab to move between apps but I haven’t used that enough to be 100% sure it always works – maybe I’ve just been lucky. Also, I’ve not noticed any other apps not appearing when using Flip 3D so assume it’s Atlantis specific.
The last time it happened, I made a point of checking if Atlantis was maximised (i.e. full screen) or minimised to the taskbar (is there any other kind of minimised?). I tried minimising it, checking in Flip 3D and then maximising and checking again in Flip 3D and got the same result in both cases i.e. it wasn’t included as one of the running apps.
As I write this, Atlantis is being included when I use Flip 3D so I can’t test it again right now.
As I write this, Atlantis is being included when I use Flip 3D so I can’t test it again right now.
Another little quirk, this time probably more to do with the fact I’m using an altered version of my old ini file rather than the fact it’s running on Windows 7, although I think Win 7 has an effect.
As I expected, my new laptop does indeed have one hard drive named C: There is no D: drive until I insert a DVD or CD into the drive and, hey presto, a D: drive appears. It remains until I reboot my machine. If I run Atlantis after having a DVD/CD in the drive (so there’s a D: drive on my system), Atlantis throws up a dialogue box (titled “Atlantis 1.6: Atlantis.exe – No Disk”) with the following error:
“There is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive D:”
I can click through it and Atlantis runs fine.
I assume there’s some reference to the D drive left over from my old ini file. Any idea what it’s looking for and if I can tweak any Atlantis setting so the error stops appearing?
Thanks.
As I expected, my new laptop does indeed have one hard drive named C: There is no D: drive until I insert a DVD or CD into the drive and, hey presto, a D: drive appears. It remains until I reboot my machine. If I run Atlantis after having a DVD/CD in the drive (so there’s a D: drive on my system), Atlantis throws up a dialogue box (titled “Atlantis 1.6: Atlantis.exe – No Disk”) with the following error:
“There is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive D:”
I can click through it and Atlantis runs fine.
I assume there’s some reference to the D drive left over from my old ini file. Any idea what it’s looking for and if I can tweak any Atlantis setting so the error stops appearing?
Thanks.