UTF-8 viewing and saving

[Renald]

I am using Atlantis Word Processor for proofreading book drafts that will eventually be posted to an online virtual library
http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page

It has the most user-friendly spell checker I could find among the affordable Word Processers, but it seems to have one shortcoming, at least for my kind of work:

Viewing and saving with UTF-8 option.

When a text with Greek, Hebrew or Cyrillic quotations, is opened in Atlantis, the quotations are trashed. When the work is saved, the original unicode is replaced with the trash information.

Is there a way to get around that? I am not concerned with spell-checking unicode text, I can do that manually, but I would like the text displayed correctly and saved properly.

Undocumented feature.

When coding a text file into an html document, I don't use html generators, because it takes me less time to code it manually than it does hunting for the mistakes made by the generator..

For that purpose, a big time saver is the tagging of paragraphs with the Atlantis search & replace utility, where I search for ^p^p (2 carriage returns) and do a global replace with </p>^p^p</p> (paragraph closing tag and paragraph opening tag, spaced with 2 carriage returns).

Are there any other undocumented codes that can be used for searching for non-printable characters or functions?

[Robert]

Hi Renald,
Which version of Atlantis are you using (“Help | About...”)? Greek, Hebrew or Cyrillic quotations display normally in Atlantis on my system (XP SP3). What kind of documents are you opening in Atlantis? Are they pure text (“.txt”), RTF (“.rtf”), or DOC (“.doc”) files? Could you please send a sample document to support@AtlantisWordProcessor.com?

As I understand things, you are creating HTML code manually in Atlantis, or at least partially in Atlantis. I use Atlantis for that purpose too (with AutoCorrect As-You-Type off obviously). I have created a series of Clip Library items which I can double-click to insert HTML tags or recurrent snippets of code/text into the document window. For example, I can insert

Code: Select all

<b></b>

with a double-click, and then type the relevant text within the opening and closing “bold” tag.

Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Robert

[Renald]

I am glad to see that I am the culprit, not Atlantis

I am using version 1.6.1.9

Here is a snippet of the text as received from the client, edited in MS Notepad and saved as text with a UTF-8 option.

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CHAPTER II.

THE PHILOSOPHY OF RELIGION.

<blockquote>
All things which I behold bear witness to your carefulness in religion
GREC &#948;&#949;&#953;&#963;&#953;&#948;&#945;&#953;&#956;&#959;&#957;&#949;&#963;&#964;&#941;&#961;&#959;&#953;&#962;.--ST. PAUL.
</blockquote>

and this is what Atlantis displays.

CHAPTER II.

THE PHILOSOPHY OF RELIGION.

<blockquote>
All things which I behold bear witness to your carefulness in religion
GREC δεισιδαιμονεστέ�οις.--ST. PAUL.
</blockquote>

It occurred to me that removing the BOM (Byte Order Mark) at the beginning of the file might solve the problem. I removed it using Babelpad, the only utility I know that can do that.

Same result.

I also noticed that this forum changed all the Greek characters to entities in the composing window.

[admin]

Viewing and saving with UTF-8 option.

Sorry, but the present version of Atlantis Word Processor does not support UTF-8 plain text files. Unicode text can be transferred from Atlantis to other text processing applications through copy/paste. You could also store your multilingual documents as RTF or DOC. The "File | Save Special | Save as Web Page..." menu command of Atlantis can convert such multilingual documents to HTML.

I also noticed that this forum changed all the Greek characters to entities in the composing window.

This is because our forum stores all the posts as ASCII text. Any non-ASCII character is encoded with a corresponding numeric code.

[Robert]

Hi Renald,
“Notepad2” is a freeware editor with UTF-8 support (http://www.flos-freeware.ch/notepad2.html). If you open UTF-8 text files in Notepad2, copy text from there, then paste it into a new Atlantis RTF document (Ctrl+V), you should get a correct display of your Greek, Hebrew or Cyrillic quotations. After that, when you have written your whole text in Atlantis, you can save it as a Web page (HTML document) still in Atlantis, using “"File | Save Special | Save as Web Page...”

Alternatively, you could go to http://www.unicodetools.com/unicode/convert-to-html.php, and convert your Greek, Hebrew or Cyrillic quotations from UTF-8 to HTML code directly. They have got a free online text to HTML converter. Here is the site description:

“With this tool you are able to encode special characters (chars like 'áèïüñ' ...) to HTML code. The advantage of using special HTML codes instead of the normal characters is that the HTML codes will be readable by most users, no matter what charset is used.”

Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Robert

[Renald]

Thanks Robert for the legwork, I will definitely try your suggestions, but with a smaller file.

The one I am currently working on, is a 536 pages book combined in a single text document and I am not sure if select-all + copy can handle such a load.

It also has 971 footnotes that I would hesitate to entrust to an html converter, seeing the the notes need to be entered where they sit right now, not at the end of the document.

The good news, no illustrations

[Robert]

The one I am currently working on, is a 536 pages book combined in a single text document and I am not sure if select-all + copy can handle such a load.

I opened a 900-pages text document in Notepad2, pressed Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C, then pasted the clipboard contents into Atlantis (Ctrl+V) without any problem at all.
Cheers,
Robert

[Renald]

SUCCESS !!!

I pasted the entire text in Atlantis,

applied all the goodies I needed,

then, instead of saving as a web page,

I pasted the entire text back to a blank .txt file that I saved with an .htm extension. (I am quite fussy about my HTML markup )

In less than 5 minute, I saved myself days of work.

To think that I had been looking for this solution for years!!! And it's so simple.


THANKS!!!

[Leopoldus]

Hi Renald,
I have created a series of Clip Library items which I can double-click to insert HTML tags or recurrent snippets of code/text into the document window. For example, I can insert

Code: Select all

<b></b>

with a double-click, and then type the relevant text within the opening and closing “bold” tag.

I tried to do the same, but has no success. Seems, that Clip Library allows to assign for clips only keyboard shortcuts and not mouse clicks. Could you please explain, how to assign a double-click (or any other mouse operation) for clips from Clip Library?
Thanks!

[Robert]

I tried to do the same, but has no success. Seems, that Clip Library allows to assign for clips only keyboard shortcuts and not mouse clicks. Could you please explain, how to assign a double-click (or any other mouse operation) for clips from Clip Library?
Thanks!

Hi Leopoldus,
You don’t “assign” mouse clicks to a Clip Library item. When you double-click a clip name in the Clip Library, the clip is automatically pasted in the document window at the current insertion point. Alternatively, you can select the Clip Library item first, then click “Insert clip” on the Clip Library bottom toolbar (leftmost button).
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert