Free 3rd party downloads

AlexWilson · Post by **AlexWilson** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:19 am

In Help I saw that I could find free 3rd party downloads in Atlantis Word Processor Downloads...but I couldn't see where.

I'm trying to get the thesaurus up and running. Can someone help?

Second question: Is there any way of finding out when my 30 day trial ends? I omitted to make a note of it.

Thanks

Alex

Post by **Robert** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:39 am

Hi Alex,
The third-party download links can be found under the “Free Tools” heading on the Atlantis download page at http://www.atlantiswordprocessor.com/en/downloads.htm.

The WordWeb Thesaurus can be downloaded directly from http://wordweb.info/free.

When does your 30-day trial end? Have you had a look at “Help | About…” in Atlantis?

Failing this, open Windows Explorer and navigate to the Atlantis home folder on your hard drive. You should find a file named “INSTALL.LOG” in there. Click “File | Properties” in Windows Explorer. Have a look at the “Creation Date”.

Cheers,
Robert

andygrunt · Post by **andygrunt** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:18 am

In case your main interest is the Thesaurus...

I installed the WordWeb thesaurus with Atlantis and found it to be terrible. Thinking I was just missing the point of how to use it, I kept it for a long time but never did have much luck with it so I uninstalled it recently.

Obviously, it would be best to have a good native thesaurus included in Atlantis (like the one in Word - one of the few Word features I miss) but I found using online Thesauri (?) to be a better alternative to WordWeb. Here're my favourites in case they're of use to you:

http://thesaurus.reference.com/
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/ ... ?lextype=2
http://freethesaurus.net/

I've recently also installed the offline version of that last one (the Mobysaurus Thesaurus) and found it to be the opposite of the WordWeb one - it comes up with too many choices! Or maybe it's just the way they're displayed makes it difficult to use. Anyway, better to have too much choice than too little.

Post by **Robert** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:52 am

andygrunt wrote:In case your main interest is the Thesaurus... I installed the WordWeb thesaurus with Atlantis and found it to be terrible. Thinking I was just missing the point of how to use it, I kept it for a long time but never did have much luck with it so I uninstalled it recently.

Here is a review from PC World at http://blogs.pcworld.com/tipsandtweaks/ ... 04967.html:

"Monday, July 23, 2007 4:25 PM PT Posted by Steve Bass
WordWeb: Free, Supercharged Thesaurus
I write for a living and a great deal of the time (more often than you think), I need help. One indispensable tool I use is WordWeb, a slick, fast, find-me-the-right-word thesaurus and dictionary.
…
I use WordWeb all the time, so I keep it loaded and available (its icon is in the system tray). To look up a word in practically any application, I call up WordWeb with a changeable hotkey (the default is Control-Alt-W). I use WordWeb the most, though, to replace one word with another that's more descriptive. And I can do it in practically any application. For instance, it's my right-hand man in Microsoft Word (and it outshines Word's thesaurus) as well as when I'm writing e-mail or updating a Web site. I just highlight the word, hold the control key and right click to see WordWeb's recommendations, then instantly replace the word.
…
Sure, I know, you can find a million dictionary sites on the Internet, but I encourage you to give WordWeb a shot."

I guess this is just a matter of taste or personal idiosyncrasy.

andygrunt · Post by **andygrunt** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:18 am

That's puzzling. I genuinely wonder what he's seeing that I'm not

I used it for a good long while (cos I installed it and it was conveniently there) and on almost every occasion, found myself having to use an alternative even though it meant extra effort. I see he mentions a Pro version with more features - perhaps he's using that? Also, I never needed to use it for definitions so perhaps he finds that of greater use than I ever did?

Anyway, you're right, it does seem a matter of personal taste but it's good to know there are a number of alternatives - enough to suit most people.

AlexWilson · Post by **AlexWilson** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:21 pm

Thanks Andy and Robert (and Steve). You've solved my problem.

And Andy, take your pick of thesauruses or thesauri. Isn't that nice? Like cappuccinos/cappuccini, forums/fora, concertos/concerti. (And yes, the spell check in this forum reckons that cappuccini and concerti are wrong! Soon it'll be stratums; or better yet stratum's.

(But would you believe said spelling checker said stratums was wrong but that stratum's was correct?) Stratum's? Stratum's? Scheesh!

Anyway, thanks again for your answer's.

Cheers

Alex

Post by **Robert** » Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:45 am

Hi Alex,
The Atlantis spellchecker accepts both “concertos” and “concerti” as legitimate plurals for “concerto”. Both plurals are given by most dictionaries.
Things are different with “cappuccino”. Most dictionaries either give “cappuccinos” as the standard plural form, or give no plural at all, which traditionally means that the plural is formed in the usual way by adding “s” to the singular form. No dictionary that I could lay my (Web) hands on gives “cappuccini” as a plural of “cappuccino”:

http://www.bartleby.com/61/98/C0089800.html
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/cappuccino?view=uk
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define. ... &dict=CALD
http://dictionary.reference.com/search? ... ccino&r=66
http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/ ... cappuccino

Now if you Google for cappuccini -"cappuccinos", you get 155,000 English pages for “cappuccini”.
And if you Google for cappuccinos -"cappuccini", you get 492,000 English pages for “cappuccinos”.

The Google statistics and the standard received spelling are in favor of “cappuccinos”.

Most likely, only the conoscenti or cognoscenti will use “cappuccini”.

Cheers,
Robert