I want to delete a page

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357mag
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I want to delete a page

Post by 357mag »

I've got a document and it's all typed up. All done. There are 4 pages of text. Page 4 is the last page that contains any text, but Atlantis is putting a 5th page that is nothing but white on the end. I'm hitting the Delete key and right clicking on the page and hitting Delete, but the page will not go away.

So how do I eliminate this 5th page?
Robert
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Post by Robert »

Have you tried pressing the Backspace key on the 5th page?
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Post by 357mag »

Thanks. That worked. If there are any additional ways to do it, please post.
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Post by luha »

You will see the «invisible» characters in your document if you press [Ctrl] + [Shift] + 8. You can avoid getting an extra page if you take care not to let your text end with several paragraph end marks etc. – and when you see them it is easier to know what you have to delete to get rid of the blank page. To return to normal viewing, press [Ctrl] + [Shift] + 8 again.
Robert
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Post by Robert »

Hi,
If pressing the Backspace key in the last page solved your problem, it is most likely because that page contained only one empty paragraph (that is one paragraph end mark), AND there was a section break right above.

As you noticed, you were unable to get rid of that paragraph end mark by pressing the DEL key. This happens when a document ends with a Section Break and the following paragraph is the only paragraph before the end of the document. The text of that paragraph can be deleted if it isn’t empty, but you are not allowed to delete the paragraph end mark itself directly with the DEL key.

This is because the properties of a section are stored in the first paragraph end mark that comes right after the section break proper. In other words, that paragraph end mark tells Atlantis all it needs to know to build the section that is right above (number of columns, page settings, etc). So you are not allowed to remove the paragraph end mark directly. You have to tell Atlantis that you don’t want to start a new section any more and you want to remove the section break itself. Hence the Backspace key that will remove the section break and actually merge the two sections, even if the second section is only empty.

You might not have noticed it but you have something similar when you create a new document. It is empty by definition but it contains an only paragraph end mark. That paragraph end mark cannot be deleted. This is because any new document is created as a single section. And the properties of that section are stored in that paragraph end mark, if only temporarily.

Finally, note that as a general rule, section breaks are best removed from the Sections panel of the Atlantis Control Board (F6), using the “Merge highlighted and previous section” or “Merge highlighted and next section” command buttons. Removing section breaks between non-empty sections directly in the document window can lead to unpredictable formatting results. The commands at the bottom of the Sections panel of the Atlantis Control Board are specially designed to guarantee the proper merging of sections.

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Robert
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Post by garza »

I have a similar problem.How can I delete a new file without saving it? I often make notes for various reasons, print them out, then discard the computer file. Usually I do this with Notepad, the only Microsoft application still in my machine, but if I have been using Atlantis for something else I will go ahead and use Atlantis for my notes. I don't want to save them. I have no further need for them. I do my writing on an old Pentium II with limited memory and I try to save every kb of disc space I can. I have found that the only way to convince Atlantis to let me go without saving the new file is to restart the computer. I don't think older versions had this problem. I am about to give up on Atlantis and quit promoting it to my friends if I can't find a solution.
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Post by Robert »

Hi,
This is actually an entirely different problem.

As I understand things, you make changes to a new document (create some content in it), and when you try to close that file without saving it, Atlantis keeps popping up a message asking you to save it. And you feel like you are in a catch-22 situation.

This is happening because you (or someone sharing Atlantis with you) have canceled the Atlantis “Optional Message” related to the saving of unsaved documents. Here is how to solve this problem:

1. Click “Tools | Options…”
2. Display the “General” tab.
3. Press the “Optional Messages…” button.
4. In the “Optional Messages” dialog, locate the following message:

“Document “###” has been modified. Save changes?”

5. Check the corresponding option box.
6. OK out of all open dialogs.

From then on, Atlantis will ask you if you want to save documents whenever you try to close them. You will be able to answer “Yes” or “No” as suits you.

Now if you want to close all documents without being asked if you want to save them, you have to uncheck the box for the same optional message and specify “No” as your default answer. In this case, Atlantis will never ask you if you want to save unsaved documents. The documents will be closed, no questions will be asked. You will have to save all your documents yourself manually.

So after all, you don’t need to throw the baby out with the bathwater (I mean Atlantis)!
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Robert

P.S.: Whenever you feel in a Catch-22 with an application, there is no need to reboot. All you need to do is press Ctrl+Alt+Del, locate the guilty application in the list, and terminate it.
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Post by garza »

Perfect. Thank you, Robert.
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Post by Robert »

By the way, you have an alternative solution for any document that you want Atlantis to discard, no questions asked. Of course, this tip is for documents that were never saved either automatically or manually.

1. If the “Undo all” command button is not already present on your toolbars, install it (Tools | Toolbars… > Edit category).

2. When you have finished using a document as a kind of draft board, and want Atlantis to simply discard it, press the “Undo all” button.

When you close that document, or exit Atlantis, the document will simply be closed. You won’t get any confirmation message from Atlantis, even if you normally get confirmation messages for “ordinary” documents.

This is because (new) empty documents are never automatically saved by Atlantis. If you close an empty document without saving it manually, Atlantis always assumes that you want to discard that document.

If you want to save empty documents, you always have to do it manually and explicitly (Ctrl+S, or “File | Save”).
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