problems with Polish and Czech characters

istota · Post by **istota** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:32 pm

Hi, I tried to type some Polish and Czech characters by using the Atlantis “Insert | Symbol…” menu command, but failed. For example, I open “Insert | Symbol…” menu, then press s (symbol code 353), and it appears in the text without the accent. So, this is the problem and I have no idea how to solve it. Can you help me?

Post by **admin** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:37 pm

Which font face do you use in the "Insert | Symbol..." dialog?

istota · Post by **istota** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:52 pm

Arial

Post by **Robert** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:32 pm

Have you entered (typed) "353" in the "symbol code" box?
Is "decimal" selected to the right of the "symbol code" box?
How are you trying to insert the character?
Do you double-click the character in the character map?
Or do you press the Insert button?

istota · Post by **istota** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:59 pm

Robert wrote:Have you entered (typed) "353" in the "symbol code" box?

No. I found the character I needed by scrolling the list of characters. The number 353 appeared automatically when I pressed (once) the character.

Robert wrote:Is "decimal" selected to the right of the "symbol code" box?

Yes.

Robert wrote:How are you trying to insert the character?

By double-clicking.

Robert wrote:Do you double-click the character in the character map?

Yes.

Robert wrote:Or do you press the Insert button?

Yes. I tried both double-clicking and pressing Insert. The result is the same in both cases.

I'll tell you more. I tried other charaters and...starting from number 370 it works (the accents do appear!). But the problems returns with Greek characters. No problems with Cyrillic and Arabic. So, I don't know. I'm really confused. It recognizes some characters but some doesn't. And it doesn't recognize Latin Extended set which I need

Post by **Robert** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:27 pm

Could you please try using the Windows Charmap?
By default, "C:\WINDOWS\system32\charmap.exe".
Try copy/paste UNICODE 161.
Does it work on your system?

Also try using Arial Unicode MS instead of plain Arial.
Any luck?

istota · Post by **istota** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:43 pm

Can you please give me more detailed explanations on this (i didn’t really understand what i should do and try)?

Robert wrote:Could you please try using the Windows Charmap?
By default, "C:\WINDOWS\system32\charmap.exe".
Try copy/paste UNICODE 161.

Robert wrote:Also try using Arial Unicode MS instead of plain Arial.

there is no such a font in my list of fonts. but i tried Lucida Sans Unicode, it didn't help

Thank you, Robert, that you're trying to help me. I'm starting to guess that the problem is in my computer not just in the Atlantis settings. And it's not good

istota · Post by **istota** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:47 pm

istota wrote:Can you please give me more detailed explanations on this (i didn’t really understand what i should do and try)?
Robert wrote:Could you please try using the Windows Charmap?
By default, "C:\WINDOWS\system32\charmap.exe".
Try copy/paste UNICODE 161.

ok. i've got it! So i open charmap.exe, find my "s" (U+0161), copy+past in Atlantis and...nothing. The character is not recognized. But if i past in MS Word the character appears as it should, with accent. And what does it mean?

Post by **Robert** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:11 pm

MS calls the Arial Unicode MS font "the universal font for Unicode".
Arial Unicode MS ships with Windows XP or MS Word. Here is from http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/ ... 01033.aspx:

"If you are using Microsoft Windows XP, the universal font for Unicode is automatically installed."

Note that you might be able to download it following this URL:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/core ... e?download

Which version of Atlantis are you using?

istota · Post by **istota** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:55 am

Robert wrote: Note that you might be able to download it following this URL:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/core ... e?download

I just installed Arial Black and Arial Narrow on my PC. And I still don't see anything like Arial Unicode or Universal font for Unicode on my font list. Should it be there?

Robert wrote:Which version of Atlantis are you using?

The latest 1.6.1.8.

Post by **Robert** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:33 am

If the character pastes correctly in MS Word, but not in Atlantis, there must be something wrong with your installation of Atlantis. On my system, Unicode 161 pastes just fine in Atlantis.

Note. It seems that Arial Unicode MS is also installed as part of the International Support features of MS Word. Here is from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/287247/en-us:

"How do I install the Arial Unicode MS font? The Arial Unicode MS font is installed as part of the Microsoft Office Setup and is part of the International Support features. To install the Arial Unicode MS font, follow these steps:

a. Click Start, point to Settings, and then click Control Panel.NOTE: In Microsoft Windows XP, click Start and then click Control Panel.

b. In Control Panel, click Add/Remove Programs.
c. Do one of the following.
• In Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Me), or Microsoft Windows NT 4.0:

On the Install/Uninstall tab, click Microsoft Office XP (or Microsoft Word 2002), and then click Add/Remove. -or-

• In Microsoft Windows 2000 or Microsoft Windows XP:

Click Change or Remove Programs, click Microsoft Office XP (or Microsoft Word 2002), and then click Change.
d. In the Features to install window, click Next.
e. Click to expand Office Shared Features.
f. Click to expand International Support.
g. Click the icon next to Universal Font, and then click Run all from My computer on the shortcut menu.
h. Click Update to complete the installation of the Universal Font (Arial Unicode MS) to your computer."

istota · Post by **istota** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:44 am

Robert wrote: • In Microsoft Windows 2000 or Microsoft Windows XP:

Click Change or Remove Programs, click Microsoft Office XP (or Microsoft Word 2002), and then click Change.
d. In the Features to install window, click Next.
e. Click to expand Office Shared Features.
f. Click to expand International Support.
g. Click the icon next to Universal Font, and then click Run all from My computer on the shortcut menu.
h. Click Update to complete the installation of the Universal Font (Arial Unicode MS) to your computer."

OK. I did it. And now I have this Arial Unicode MS!

Robert wrote:If the character pastes correctly in MS Word, but not in Atlantis, there must be something wrong with your installation of Atlantis.

Do you think I should delete Atlantis and then install it again?

istota · Post by **istota** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:21 pm

istota wrote:
Robert wrote:If the character pastes correctly in MS Word, but not in Atlantis, there must be something wrong with your installation of Atlantis.
Do you think I should delete Atlantis and then install it again?

I reinstalled Atlantis. It didn't help.

Post by **admin** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:44 pm

Which operating system do your use?

Please download and unzip the following RTF document, and open it in your Atlantis:

http://www.AtlantisWordProcessor.com/en ... acters.zip

It should display in Atlantis in the following way:

How does it display in your Atlantis? You could attach a screen capture to your forum post (click here for tips on creating screen captures and attaching them to your posts).

Post by **admin** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:48 pm

Are you sure that your Windows has support for the Central European languages? Please choose the "Regional options" applet of the Windows Control Panel.

istota · Post by **istota** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:04 pm

admin wrote:Which operating system do your use?

Windows XP

admin wrote: Please download and unzip the following RTF document, and open it in your Atlantis:

http://www.AtlantisWordProcessor.com/en ... acters.zip

OK

istota · Post by **istota** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:09 pm

admin wrote:Are you sure that your Windows has support for the Central European languages? Please choose the "Regional options" applet of the Windows Control Panel.

I'm not sure. What should I check/change on this "Regional options" menu?

Post by **Robert** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:14 am

Here is from http://aatseel.org/windows_central:

"Russifying your Computer" (Slavic fonts & keyboard drivers)
Windows Central and East European Fonts and Keyboard Drivers
Special Note for Windows users:
If you use any version of Windows 95 and up, you do NOT need to obtain fonts or keyboard drivers for most CE Languages. Microsoft includes CE support in the system software. For the newest versions of Windows, do the following: Go to "Control Panel" and double-click on "Regional Options". Choose the tab entitled "General". Towards the bottom are the language settings. Check "Central Europe" and choose "ok." For older versions of Windows, the process is slightly different. To install, do the following: Open Control Panel, double-click Add/Remove Programs, click the Windows Setup tab, and select the Multilanguage Support check box. (Note: this will also install support for Greek, Cyrillic, etc.) Click "ok" and exit. Also, don't forget to install a keyboard. In the same Control Panel, double-click on the Keyboard icon. Go to Language and choose the one you need. You will have to restart the computer for the changes to take effect. The keyboard layout provided is based upon the typewriter layout used in each language.
Setting up fonts and keyboard drivers for Windows
Font Section. Provides links to freeware/shareware East European Latin fonts for Windows. In most cases, you will need a utility such as Unzip to decompress these files once you have downloaded them.
Keyboard drivers.
Links to font archives."

Hope this helps.

istota · Post by **istota** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:40 am

Thank you!
It sounds very complicated but I'll try.