Impossible to add "AAA's" to dictionary

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Impossible to add "AAA's" to dictionary

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Now it is unpossible to add AAA's to the Atlantis-dictionary. the only possibilities are the suggested:
AAA'S or Aaa's or aaa's
AAA'S or Aaa's
AAA'S

Is it possible to add AAA's as a suggestion. Or, preferable, to add the word as such: AAA's

Thanks a lot.

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Re: impossible to add "AAA" to custom dictionary

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Greetings–

Let’s suppose that you are typing English text and the current language is UK or US English in the status bar.

If you type “AAA” or “AAA’s”, and “Spellcheck-As-You-Type” is on (Tools | Options > Spellcheck), these acronyms will be red-underlined by Atlantis.

If you right-click these red-underlined words, you can choose “Add to Dictionary” from the pop-up menu. This will open the “Add Word To Dictionary” dialog. It should look like the screen capture below.

The third option in that dialog (“AAA”) will be selected by default (“This word is always written entirely in upper case”). Leave things as they are and OK out of the dialog.

From then on, Atlantis will no longer report “AAA” or “AAA’s” as misspelt.

Note that you should never add words with “‘s” (apostrophe+s) to your custom dictionary. Always leave the possessive out. Atlantis will take care of it automatically.

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Re: Impossible to add "AAA's" to dictionary

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VJF wrote:Is it possible to add AAA's as a suggestion. Or, preferable, to add the word as such: AAA's
As I understand, you were spellchecking a Dutch text. Is the following correct: ['s] is always written in lowercase in such Dutch words (AAA's, Gina's, etc), no matter the case pattern of the characters that precede the apostrophe? In other words, are the following case patterns acceptable:

AAA'S
GINA'S
etc. ?
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Admin and Robert,
Thanks for your answers.

Robert,
Atlantis wil NOT accept AAA's when I accepted AAA. (Or KROZBL's, when I accepted KROZBL). AndThat I my wish. And therefor my question to you.

Admin,
Yes, Dutch.
['s] is always written in lowercase in such Dutch words (AAA's, Gina's, etc), no matter the case pattern of the characters that precede the apostrophe.
In other words, the following case patterns UNacceptable:

AAA'S
GINA'S.

My question to you is to make it possible, that AAA's is accepted in the dictionary as AAA's without any changes. It will be very convenient.

Thanks in advance.
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In other words, the following case patterns UNacceptable:

AAA'S
GINA'S.
Thanks for explaining. A question though. Is there any reason why a Dutch possessive form ("AAA's" or "Gina's") has to be added to the dictionary? As you might know, when you try to add an English possessive form to the dictionary, it is added without ['s], but Atlantis does not report this possessive form as misspelt. Maybe the same approach should be used regarding the Dutch spellchecking? For instance, if you use the right-click "Add to Dictionary" command to add "AAA's" or "Gina's" to the dictionary, Atlantis would add "AAA" or "Gina" to the dictionary. But Atlantis would not report "AAA's" and "Gina's" as misspelt. Would be this behavior correct?
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There is no other reason for this than MY convenience.

ASDF'S is really misspelling in Dutch. And should be ASDF's.

Admin, you said: "As you might know, when you try to add an English possessive form to the dictionary, it is added without ['s], but Atlantis does not report this possessive form as misspelt. Maybe the same approach should be used regarding the Dutch spellchecking"
That's wrong: As an example I accepted in the Dutch dictionary "ASDF". When I then write "ASDF's", Atlantis underlines this with a red line.

NB With the English dictionary (Format - Language), you are right. With the Dutch dictionary I seem to be right.................

Greetings.
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Re: Dutch spelling

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Greetings--
If you go to http://www.foreignword.com/Tools/transnow.htm, and translate "GINA'S BOOK" from English into Dutch, you get "GINA'S BOEKJE".

Is this translation wrong? I mean, is "GINA'S BOEKJE" wrongly spelt? In other words, is block letter formatting impossible in Dutch?

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(What kinf of things do you read??)

In "GINA'S BOEKJE" all the characters are in capitals. Quite acceptable in Dutch, if ALL the characters are capitals, as in what seems to be a title of a book. But not acceptable, if not all the characters are capitals.

If Atlantis with dutch dictionary works as it works with the English dictionary, I'm content: I don't like tot be disturbed by question with only wrong possible answers. Because that's the inconvenience.

(Thanks for your answers and interest!)

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Re: Dutch spelling (2)

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Hi! Vincent!

Are the following spellings possible in Dutch?

Gina's boekje
Gina's Boekje
GINA's BOEKJE
GINA'S BOEKJE

Are the following spellings completely ruled out?

Gina'S boekje
Gina'S Boekje
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Gina's boekje: good
Gina's Boekje: strange, but possible; should be possible.
GINA's BOEKJE: I doubt (to be honest)
GINA'S BOEKJE: applause

Are the following spellings completely ruled out?

Gina'S boekje: wrong
Gina'S Boekje: impossible.

(Thanks again).
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VJF wrote:Admin, you said: "As you might know, when you try to add an English possessive form to the dictionary, it is added without ['s], but Atlantis does not report this possessive form as misspelt. Maybe the same approach should be used regarding the Dutch spellchecking"
That's wrong: As an example I accepted in the Dutch dictionary "ASDF". When I then write "ASDF's", Atlantis underlines this with a red line.
I know that Atlantis currently does not accept such "mixed-case possessives" in Dutch texts - they are reported as misspelt. But my question was whether Atlantis should accept the Dutch "XXXXX's" possessives as properly spelt but suggest to add words without ['s] to the dictionary.

Let's take an example. Let's suppose, that your Dutch text contains "AAA's" and "Gina's". Under the suggested scheme, if you right-click these words, Atlantis would suggest to add "AAA" and "Gina" to the dictionary. Also under this suggested scheme, if you add "AAA" and "Gina" to the dictionary, Atlantis would not report the following Dutch words as misspelt:

AAA (when used on its own)
Gina (when used on its own)
AAA's
Gina's

In my second post to this thread I asked you whether this scheme would be correct.
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You said: "I know that Atlantis currently does not accept such "mixed-case possessives" in Dutch texts - they are reported as misspelt. But my question was whether Atlantis should accept the Dutch "XXXXX's" possessives as properly spelt but suggest to add words without ['s] to the dictionary."

The answer is : yes.

[As I said before: the real problem is the always repeating red-line and misspelling-and-proposal-box with anly wrong solutions (in this case of course).]

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Atlantis will accept such Dutch possessives as properly spelt. A fix will be included in any next build of Atlantis. You could download the latest build of Atlantis with a fix right now:
http://www.atlantiswordprocessor.com/en ... _1_5a1.zip
Just unpack the contained Atlantis.exe to the home folder of Atlantis on your hard disk (by default, to "C:\Program Files\Atlantis\").
So if you now right-click any custom Dutch possessive, and choose to add it to the dictionary, Atlantis would suggest to add the main form of the word ("AAA" or "Gina"). But after adding the main form to the dictionary, the possessive form ("AAA's" or "Gina's") will be also accepted as properly spelt.
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Thanks.

The best things of Atlantis:
1. it is already very good (the best in what it does)
2. a problem will be solved within hours or days
3. And because of this: will always be the best.

Vincent.
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