Moving through notes

[janniklindquist]

Hi,

Please add the following:

1) Having the "mouse over" popup for notes appear not just at "mouse over" but also when the cursor is placed at a note (either by the "Find"-dialog or manually by the user (by mouse or by keyboard))

2) A shortcut for jumping from note to note (not from notetext to notetext)

Together this would provide the user with a very effective way of reading the content of notes in their context (that is without jumping from text to notetext).

Thank you,
Jannik Lindquist

[admin]

The document “main text” can include note reference marks linked to the corresponding notes.

To navigate through the notes themselves, click any note (I mean its text not its reference mark), then use the Ctrl+Up or Ctrl+Down keys.

To navigate through the note reference marks, use the “Edit | Find…” menu command. Type “^f” as a “Find what” string, then click the “Find” button. After this you can close the “Find”Replace” dialog, and use the F3 key to find the remaining note reference marks.

Sorry, but the popup hints are a mouse-related feature. You need to place the mouse pointer over the required note reference mark to get a popup hint with the text of the corresponding note.

[janniklindquist]

The document “main text” can include note reference marks linked to the corresponding notes.

To navigate through the notes themselves, click any note (I mean its text not its reference mark), then use the Ctrl+Up or Ctrl+Down keys.

To navigate through the note reference marks, use the “Edit | Find…” menu command. Type “^f” as a “Find what” string, then click the “Find” button. After this you can close the “Find”Replace” dialog, and use the F3 key to find the remaining note reference marks.

Sorry, but the popup hints are a mouse-related feature. You need to place the mouse pointer over the required note reference mark to get a popup hint with the text of the corresponding note.

Thank you for your answer. Would you consider adding shortcuts for jumping between a note reference mark and note text, then?

BTW, I just saw that when focus is in note text it is possible to use Ctrl+Home to jump to the first note in a document and Ctrl+End to jump to the last note.

Thank you,
Jannik Lindquist

[admin]

Would you consider adding shortcuts for jumping between a note reference mark and note text, then?

To switch to the note text (or vice versa), you need to double-click the corresponding note reference mark. This command (I mean "switching to a note text") is a context command. Atlantis needs to know which object (in our case - which reference mark) is meant. It is obvious which reference mark should be used when you place the mouse pointer over it. But there is no such thing as "the current reference mark" when you navigate through your document with the keyboard, especially when a reference mark is immediately followed by another reference mark. Please use the mouse to switch to a note text.

BTW, I just saw that when focus is in note text it is possible to use Ctrl+Home to jump to the first note in a document and Ctrl+End to jump to the last note.

Yes, these hot keys are supposed to work in this way.

[janniklindquist]

Would you consider adding shortcuts for jumping between a note reference mark and note text, then?

To switch to the note text (or vice versa), you need to double-click the corresponding note reference mark. This command (I mean "switching to a note text") is a context command. Atlantis needs to know which object (in our case - which reference mark) is meant. It is obvious which reference mark should be used when you place the mouse pointer over it. But there is no such thing as "the current reference mark" when you navigate through your document with the keyboard, especially when a reference mark is immediately followed by another reference mark. Please use the mouse to switch to a note text.

I'd rather not Are you aware of the "GoToFootnote"-command in Word? You can set a shortcut for that command and use the shortcut to toggle from the current note reference to the note text - and back again. That is what I was looking for in Atlantis.

In fact, the "Go to next/previous"-commands in Word can be used both to jump from note reference to note reference (if the cursor is in the document) or from note text to note text (if the cursor is in the notes area).

To me, all of this is Footnote-heaven and, to be honest, I hate the thought of Word taking the lead on a usability-area like this where Atlantis should be running circles around Word (as it usally does)

[Robert]

Greetings--

Are you aware of the "GoToFootnote"-command in Word? You can set a shortcut for that command and use the shortcut to toggle from the current note reference to the note text - and back again.

As far as I know, this is not how things are working in MS Word.

In fact, the "Go to next/previous"-commands in Word can be used both to jump from note reference to note reference (if the cursor is in the document) or from note text to note text (if the cursor is in the notes area).

This is how things are working in MS Word indeed.

You can achieve pretty much the same thing in Atlantis using the Find dialog:

1. Place the insertion cursor either in the document or within the notes area, depending on whether you want to navigate from one note reference mark to the next, or from one note text to the next.
2. Bring up the Find dialog (Ctrl+F).
3. Click the “Add special symbol” button to the right of the “Find” input box.
4. Select “Footnote/Endnote Mark” from the pop-up list.
5. Close the Find dialog.
6. Press F3. This will take you to the first note reference mark or note text, depending on the initial position of the insertion cursor.
7. Press F3 to go to the next note reference mark or note text. Press F3 again to go to the next item. And so on.

Hope this helps.
Cheers
Robert

[janniklindquist]

Greetings--

Are you aware of the "GoToFootnote"-command in Word? You can set a shortcut for that command and use the shortcut to toggle from the current note reference to the note text - and back again.

As far as I know, this is not how things are working in MS Word.

Officially, the "GoToFoonote"-command is for opening a footnote-window - but that is only in the so-called "Normal"-view of Word. In Printlayout view it works exactly as I said.

In fact, the "Go to next/previous"-commands in Word can be used both to jump from note reference to note reference (if the cursor is in the document) or from note text to note text (if the cursor is in the notes area).

This is how things are working in MS Word indeed.

You can achieve pretty much the same thing in Atlantis using the Find dialog:

1. Place the insertion cursor either in the document or within the notes area, depending on whether you want to navigate from one note reference mark to the next, or from one note text to the next.
2. Bring up the Find dialog (Ctrl+F).
3. Click the “Add special symbol” button to the right of the “Find” input box.
4. Select “Footnote/Endnote Mark” from the pop-up list.
5. Close the Find dialog.
6. Press F3. This will take you to the first note reference mark or note text, depending on the initial position of the insertion cursor.
7. Press F3 to go to the next note reference mark or note text. Press F3 again to go to the next item. And so on.

Hope this helps.
Cheers
Robert

Forgive me, Robert, but this does not help very much Firt of all, if focus is in the notes it is much easier simply to use the Ctrl+Up/Down shorctus to move through the notes in Atlantis. Secondly, you are recommending a seven-step workaround! In Word the same process can be done in two steps

1) Move to notes if you are in document or to document if you are in notes. This is the "GoToFootnote"-command used in "PrintLayout" view in Word. Kindly test it, if you don't believe me

2) Hit Ctrl+Up/Down to move through the notes - it doesn't matter whether you are in the notes or in the documents!

Jannik

[admin]

MS Word has those extra "GoTo...note" commands indeed. But they are rarely used commands, if not say more. But having them in Atlantis would not harm. They will be included in the next maintenance release of Atlantis 1.6.1.4. You could assign hot keys to these commands in Atlantis through the "Tools | Hot Keys..." dialog:



The “Go to footnote” command switches to the footnote associated with the “nearest footnote reference mark” in the document main text (when the caret is within the document main text), or switches to the reference mark of the current footnote (when the caret is within a footnote).

The “Go to endnote” command switches to the endnote associated with the “nearest endnote reference mark” in the document main text (when the caret is within the document main text), or switches to the reference mark of the current endnote (when the caret is within an endnote).

The “Previous footnote” command places the caret before the previous footnote reference mark (when the caret is within the document main text), or at the beginning of the previous footnote (when the caret is within a footnote).

The “Next footnote” command places the caret before the next footnote reference mark (when the caret is within the document main text), or at the beginning of the next footnote (when the caret is within a footnote).

The “Previous endnote” command places the caret before the previous endnote reference mark (when the caret is within the document main text), or at the beginning of the previous endnote (when the caret is within an endnote).

The “Next endnote” command places the caret before the next endnote reference mark (when the caret is within the document main text), or at the beginning of the next endnote (when the caret is within an endnote).

[janniklindquist]

MS Word has those extra "GoTo...note" commands indeed. But they are rarely used commands, if not say more. But having them in Atlantis would not harm. They will be included in the next maintenance release of Atlantis 1.6.1.4. You could assign hot keys to these commands in Atlantis through the "Tools | Hot Keys..." dialog:



The “Go to footnote” command switches to the footnote associated with the “nearest footnote reference mark” in the document main text (when the caret is within the document main text), or switches to the reference mark of the current footnote (when the caret is within a footnote).

The “Go to endnote” command switches to the endnote associated with the “nearest endnote reference mark” in the document main text (when the caret is within the document main text), or switches to the reference mark of the current endnote (when the caret is within an endnote).

The “Previous footnote” command places the caret before the previous footnote reference mark (when the caret is within the document main text), or at the beginning of the previous footnote (when the caret is within a footnote).

The “Next footnote” command places the caret before the next footnote reference mark (when the caret is within the document main text), or at the beginning of the next footnote (when the caret is within a footnote).

The “Previous endnote” command places the caret before the previous endnote reference mark (when the caret is within the document main text), or at the beginning of the previous endnote (when the caret is within an endnote).

The “Next endnote” command places the caret before the next endnote reference mark (when the caret is within the document main text), or at the beginning of the next endnote (when the caret is within an endnote).

If you are interested in these new commands, you could download the following ZIP file, and unpack its contents to the home folder of Atlantis (by default, "C:\Program Files\Atlantis"):
http://www.atlantiswordprocessor.com/en ... _1_4a1.zip

LOL! This is superb! Exactly what I was looking for - I can't thank you enough for being so responsive

Jannik