Loss of calculator function

windinthew · Post by **windinthew** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:07 am

I try Atlantis 1,6 after long time with Atlantis Nova .. I really miss old calculator ability to have option to automatically paste the result in (with or without the expression) ... I hate spreadhseets so I use calculator a lot, Now I have to paste the result in and then have to clear all the results out of my clipboard manager! Can this proper calculation function be brought back *it is in the
free program... if not, what is the last version of Atlantis that still had it? Thank you

Post by **admin** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:42 pm

Atlantis Word Processor 1.5.4 (and higher) places the calculation result onto the clipboard. Nothing gets inserted to your document. Sorry, but the old Calculate feature cannot be brought back to Atlantis Word Processor. The last version of Atlantis Word Processor that had the old Calculate feature, was 1.5.3.

windinthew · Post by **windinthew** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:33 pm

OK so where can I get 1.5,3 and is my 1.6 licence good for it?

Post by **admin** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:55 am

The setup of 1.5.3.1 is still available on our server:
http://www.AtlantisWordProcessor.com/do ... _5_3_1.exe

A 1.6 license is OK for any release of Atlantis Word Processor 1.x.

windinthew · Post by **windinthew** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:46 am

Thank you .. but can you explain why the old functionality can never come back? It is twice the
effort to make a calculation , then you have to throw the clips out of your clipboard manager (who makes do with the Windows clipboard these days?) And what are the advantages? It is disappointing that a 40 dollar version does not have the functionality of the free version.

Post by **admin** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:20 pm

The reason is that Atlantis is a word processor not a spreadsheet. It is not supposed to include any advanced computation tools.

windinthew · Post by **windinthew** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:34 pm

And which looks nicer, an rtf document or a spreadsheet? So in other words there is no
technical reason for your decision, you are just going on arbitrary application boundaries that are
some sort of received wisdom. It is disappointing because there are more uses for numbers in a non spreadsheet than you think......

Post by **admin** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:50 pm

You are right, it is not a technical question. It is a question of reasonability and consistency. The old versions of Atlantis included the unreasonably complex "Calculate" feature. Some of its components were never needed in a word processor (for example, no one would ever expect a "gallons to liters" conversion command in a word processor).
The present version of Atlantis includes the basic "Calculate" feature which is sufficient for most word processing tasks.

windinthew · Post by **windinthew** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:40 am

I still hope ultimately at least you will reconsider ,
especially about my main problem which is the extra step involved to make a calculation and the
unnecessary adding of the result to the clipboard.
If you want to be consistent please consider
reinstating the paste result directly to document,
or remove the calculator which is the logical outcome of what you say. It would be a big mistake because almost no wordprocessors
have a calculator because they think this should be a spreadsheet function. If you have Atlantis open all the time, the old calculator idea is actually easier than loading up a calculator
software.

I never used conversions but if you write a technical letter to someone I can see every
reason for a conversion helper.

And off topic you still have the old problem that the atlantis on web button in the program always brings up IE, not the users default browser. This is strange with IE losing market
share all the time. Anyway.... I rest my case.
Thank you

Post by **admin** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:48 am

And off topic you still have the old problem that the atlantis on web button in the program always brings up IE, not the users default browser.

When you use the "Help | Atlantis on the Web" menu command of Atlantis, it asks your Windows to browse the home site of Atlantis in the assigned software. This command of Atlantis has no hardcoded link to MS Internet Explorer. If the "Help | Atlantis on the Web" menu command of Atlantis still tries to launch MS Internet Explorer on your system (actually your Windows does this), there is a configuration problem in your Windows: the default Web browser has not been correctly set up.

Note that the built-in Help system of Atlantis requires MS Internet Explorer. You can use any Web browser as your default Web browser. But I am not sure that removing MS Internet Explorer from Windows completely is a good idea since quite many applications rely on its components.

misterp · Post by **misterp** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:17 pm

admin wrote: Note that the built-in Help system of Atlantis requires MS Internet Explorer. You can use any Web browser as your default Web browser. But I am not sure that removing MS Internet Explorer from Windows completely is a good idea since quite many applications rely on its components.

Using the Atlantis help file does not require the IE core, although using the menu options does indeed require it. Presumably, the "contents" menu option calls the built-in windows CHM reader rather than trying to open the .chm file using default system behavior. I can open the .chm file by double clicking it with no problem (I use xchm), but the menu option doesn't work. Some programs seem to just open the chm file instead, since my system will open their chm help.

This is just for clarification, the only chm file I find the need to read is that of Autohotkey.

Post by **admin** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:40 pm

The Help menu commands of Atlantis do not just "open a CHM file" as Windows Explorer does. Atlantis requires greater control over the display of the contents of the CHM file. For instance, the context Help commands of Atlantis require to display particular topics of the Atlantis Help. This can be achieved only through the MS HTML Help Control which is a component of MS Internet Explorer.