Tables

[Guest]

Without those of us who actually register and part with our hard earned cash Atlantis would be just another fly by night word processor. For some unknown reason Admin refuses to answer the question as to whether or when tables are going to be implemented in this fine program. As has been stated this has been going on for a very long time. If this program is to make its mark on the wordprocessor scene then those of us who use it must be listened to OTHERWISE NO MORE SALES WILL BE FORTHCOMING and potential customers will look elsewhere. Perhaps the more responses to this post will jolt them into action and implement tables very very soon. to

[Robert]

Without those of us who actually register and part with our hard earned cash Atlantis would be just another fly by night word processor. For some unknown reason Admin refuses to answer the question as to whether or when tables are going to be implemented in this fine program. As has been stated this has been going on for a very long time. If this program is to make its mark on the wordprocessor scene then those of us who use it must be listened to OTHERWISE NO MORE SALES WILL BE FORTHCOMING and potential customers will look elsewhere. Perhaps the more responses to this post will jolt them into action and implement tables very very soon. to

Greetings--
1) Atlantis is a try-before-you-buy (shareware) software. People know before buying that tables are not yet implemented in Atlantis. They buy licenses for Atlantis with full knowledge of this.
2) To set the record straight, —and as has already been stated many times on this Forum—, Atlantis will eventually support all the major features of a top-end word processor, including tables. So tables will be implemented. There is no doubt about this at all.
3) Unquestionably, Atlantis is already very good value for money. As it stands, Atlantis is a very practical, user-friendly word processor with enough features to create any document if it does not have to contain tables or footnotes.
4) The next version of Atlantis, due to be released in a month or two, will include support for
— bulleted, numbered, and outline lists,
— viewing, selecting and re-organizing document structure and hierarchy with simple mouse clicks, using an unparalleled and very powerful Document Map feature,
— creating multiple selections with mouse drag, or automatically, using a new more powerful Find/Replace dialog. You will be able to reformat these multiple selections or replace them with a substitute text or picture,
— importing CSV Address Book databases (Outlook Express Address Books for example),
— and plenty of minor improvements which will make your word processing life in Atlantis even more practical and user-friendly.
5) Every day, there is a growing number of end-users who are more than willing to part with their hard earned cash to buy a license for Atlantis. Surely, it must be because they realize that a mere $35 US Dollars for an Atlantis license is extremely good value for money. So please do not worry unduly about the Atlantis present or forthcoming sales. Most of our buyers fully appreciate how good Atlantis is. AS IT IS. And also as it promises to be.
Cheers
Robert

[Guest]

surely GOOD business sense is to give what the customers want. You may have sold thousands of Atlanteses as the program is but maybe many more with What the customers want. HOW MANY PEOPLE TRY THAT DO NOT BUY BECAUSE IT HAS NOT GOT WHAT THEY WANT

[Guest]

surely GOOD business sense is to give what the customers want. You may have sold thousands of Atlanteses as the program is but maybe many more with What the customers want. HOW MANY PEOPLE TRY THAT DO NOT BUY BECAUSE IT HAS NOT GOT WHAT THEY WANT

The next version of Atlantis, due to be released in a month or two, will include support for
— bulleted, numbered, and outline lists, NEED I SAY ANYMORE COME ON.....

[Robert]

The next version of Atlantis, due to be released in a month or two, will include support for
— bulleted, numbered, and outline lists, NEED I SAY ANYMORE COME ON.....

Greetings--
We appreciate that you so much want to increase the Atlantis turnover. We do share your concern and we do our best to augment and improve the Atlantis feature offer, but we are a small team and as we all know Rome wasn’t built in a day. We still hope that you can enjoy Atlantis for what it can presently deliver.

One final comment. You should not belittle the importance of the list feature in a word processor. Simply try creating outline lists using any of the available word processors, even using the best and most famous among them. You might notice, as so many already have, that their list feature is awkward to use at best. Often the resulting outline lists are chaotic and unpredictable. The Atlantis list feature will be as practical, no-nonsense, and user-friendly as it is cumbersome in other word processors. We are confident that most users fully appreciate what Atlantis has to offer for a very low price, even if table support is not yet implemented.
Cheers
Robert

[John Stafford]

You are certainly correct about the value of list features. I did an inventory of the sorts of documents I create most frequently and indeed, lists are very common in my own usage. One aspect of a list function that I hope you can incorporate is the ability to change formatting easily (by which I mean globally across the list), and to add or delete items from the list so that the list automatically updates itself. Last, it would be great if it were possible to create a variety of lists in one document so that list enumeration could continue or be discontinued at will. Thanks. John

[admin]

All this will be possible with the next release of Atlantis.

[Guest]

Most of our buyers fully appreciate how good Atlantis is. AS IT IS. And also as it promises to be.
Cheers
Robert

I'm one of those. You guys rock.

Shut up and be patient you infidels!

[abdobe]

Most of our buyers fully appreciate how good Atlantis is. AS IT IS. And also as it promises to be.
Cheers
Robert

I'm one of those. You guys rock.

Shut up and be patient you infidels!

I fully support your statement. Atlantis is a fast, unbloated word processor. Why is it so important with tables? Why don't you guys use another s l o w e r and fully bloated word processor like MS Word or OpenOffice indstead? I really don't want my favourite program to be filled up with all kinds of dingle dangle. It's a fantastic application as it is for us who writes manuscripts and translates between languages.

[Guest]

I think I found out a work-around for tables. Not nice, but it works. (It is like the old beloved WP5.1 once worked)

1. attribute (for example) Ctr-3 to ''column break''
2. attribute (for example) Ctr-4 to ''section break continuous'' (Robert mentioned recently how)
3. choose a column (2, 3 or 4 etc).
4. start writing. When you want to select the next column, insert ''column break'';
5. after the last column (at the same heigth) insert section break.

Question: how to easily jump te the other column?

[Robert]

Question: how to easily jump te the other column?

Greetings--
Of course, the quickest and easiest would be with the mouse.
You can also use the following keys:
1. End
2. Right Arrow twice
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Robert

[Stirlitz]

Atlantis will eventually support all the major features of a top-end word processor, including tables.

Here we go...
It has been three years we hear the litany. Atlantis will.. will.. will.. and so on. I no longer wonder if it ever does instead of will. I installed MS Word XP even though it sux.

The history of the tables feature user request clearly shows that they will never be implemented:

Tables? Mar 16, 2001
table support? Oct 15, 2003
Tables? Footnotes? Feb 04, 2004
tables Mar 06, 2004
These tables is so important!!! Jul 27, 2004

[Guest]

A boat may look nice but with a hole in it it sinks????????????

[Stirlitz]

Why is it so important with tables? Why don't you guys use another s l o w e r and fully bloated word processor like MS Word or OpenOffice indstead?

You have answered your question. Why don't you use a s l o w e r editor? I bet because it is slow.

You do not really need tables if you use your text editor to write emails or essays. If all that you need is bold, italic and different fonts, you do not actually need Atlantis. But if you are a professional, you will need them sooner or later, be it a report, a technical article or some specification.

There are a number of small free RTF editors written by Russian programmers offhand; unfortunately they no longer develop but the funny thing is all of them support tables. Why tables implementation which is easy for teenagers is so hard a task for Atlantis developers remains a mystery.

[Guest]

Stirlitz
as far i know, Atlantis is written by ukrainian programmers (but they live now in Australia)
Nice, isn't it?

There are a number of small free RTF editors written by Russian programmers ... all of them support tables

but no one supports table PROPERLY

[Stirlitz]

Stirlitz
as far i know, Atlantis is written by ukrainian programmers (but they live now in Australia)
Nice, isn't it? :)

There are a number of small free RTF editors written by Russian programmers ... all of them support tables

but no one supports table PROPERLY

Well I do not know where they live now but it looks like the foreign environment is not too instrumental for programming. When they were in Ukraine, Atlantis was developing rapidly, now it is stagnating, if not on the brink of dying.

What do you mean by properly? The ones that I tested are fine with tables. They do lack many other features Atlantis has though but I wish Atlantis would support tables even so 'improperly' as they do. After all, it is not a table processor that is needed (hey there are spreadsheet processors out there), I just want to open a document with tables and see something readable. Now it does not really differ from using Wordpad when it comes to tables.

[Stirlitz]

A boat may look nice but with a hole in it it sinks????????????

A very good comparison. When Atlantis was born, it had a lot of holes above water. All of them were fixed but tables. At the same time, new features made it heavier and the hole is critically close to the water now.

[Guest]

What do you mean by properly?

stable and comfortable, as ... Atlantis!

The ones that I tested are fine with tables

wich one was it?

[billybob]

Okay, just my 2-cents worth. Tables are an important feature, and Atlantis will not be a full-featured word processor until table support is implemented.

And I agree, RSSOL has been very slow in releasing updates, and I wish the administrators would be more forthcoming with release schedules and dates for certain important feature additions.

But, I have to say that I have been impressed by the stability of each release. When major features (like headers and footers) have been added, they worked. I sometimes question certain feature additions, which may have delayed the table support, but then I find myself using those features and being very glad they are there.

So, even though I, too, lament the lack of tables, I more appreciate the obvious dedication of RSSOL to add a feature only when it is solid, stable and usable. As to Atlantis being near death, this may be so. I don't know, and only RSSOL knows the answer to that. I do know that, as a writer, I appreciate Atlantis as it stands, and look forward to tables and otner features when they are added.

It would be helpful for RSSOL to let us know more about the devepment and release cycle, and maybe tell us a little more about the company, its resources and its future. I wish them well, because I use their product every day and want Atlantis to have a future of growth and success.

[Robert]

As to Atlantis being near death, this may be so.

Greetings--
This is to set everybody’s mind at rest. Atlantis is not near death at all. Actually, Atlantis is getting along nicely. These alleged news about Atlantis being near death are just a figment of one poster's imagination who obviously has made it his crusade to run Atlantis and its developers down.
And even though one person insists on questioning our sincerity, we hope that everybody can take our word for it: Atlantis will eventually support all the major features of a top-end word processor, including tables.
Cheers
Robert