Try to change the font and leave original symbols unchanged

VJF · Post by **VJF** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:36 am

I made a concept of a text , some symbols included. Whan I change the font, the symbols have disappeared or have changed (f.e. âáßàÄM+[). Is there any possibility to keep the original symbols? (New Times Roman)

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I made a concept of a text , some symbols included. Whan I change the font, the symbols have disappeared or have changed (f.e. âáßàÄM+[). Is there any possibility to keep the original symbols? (Arial)
Vincent van Gool

VJF · Post by **VJF** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:39 am

I notice, that the symbols even here have changed (pointers to the left, right, etcetera.
Vincent

Post by **Robert** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:11 am

VJF wrote: I made a concept of a text , some symbols included. Whan I change the font, the symbols have disappeared or have changed (f.e. âáßàÄM+[). Is there any possibility to keep the original symbols? (New Times Roman)

Greetings–
Please, could you be more specific?
Which characters did you insert, using which font and which language coding?
Which font face did you apply to the original symbols?
Cheers
Robert

VJF · Post by **VJF** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:32 am

As I said: default font is New Roman Times. I inserted arrows (pull-downmenu Insert, Symbol).

Then I changed the font with the txt and symbols to the Arial font with the peculiar result.

Vincent

Post by **Robert** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:14 am

VJF wrote: As I said: default font is New Roman Times. I inserted arrows (pull-downmenu Insert, Symbol).

Then I changed the font with the txt and symbols to the Arial font with the peculiar result.
Vincent

Greetings–
If you actually used Atlantis to insert “arrow” symbols, it cannot have been with a Times New Roman font face. Atlantis currently has no support for UNICODE characters and the Times New Roman “arrow” symbols are part of the Times New Roman “extended” UNICODE characters. So the Times New Roman “arrow” symbols cannot currently be inserted using Atlantis.

If you did insert “arrow” symbols with Atlantis, it can only have been using a “symbol” font, i.e. the “Symbol” font itself, or maybe the Wingding font, or some other more exotic font.

If this is the case, and you changed the font face from “Symbol” to Arial, the characters are bound to be different. The characters in the so-called “symbol” fonts are different from the ones found in “non-symbol” fonts such as Arial or Times New Roman.

If you want to retain the arrow symbols that you inserted in the first place, you’ll have to select the Arial characters that replaced them and re-apply the “Symbol” font to them (Format | Font…)
Cheers
Robert

VJF · Post by **VJF** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:30 am

Thanks, Robert.
I already concluded what you nicely explained.

So, the answer on my question is: no simple way. But there is a complicated one.

Groet,
Vincent

Post by **Robert** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:14 am

VJF wrote: Thanks, Robert.
I already concluded what you nicely explained.

So, the answer on my question is: no simple way. But there is a complicated one.

Groet,
Vincent

Greetings--
There is nothing complicated about this.
As a matter of fact, it could not be simpler!
Symbols are inserted using special "symbol" fonts.
Ordinary characters are inserted using ordinary non-symbol fonts.
UNICODE characters might seem a good idea. But as things stand, very few applications have UNICODE support and documents using UNICODE symbols often have "portability" problems.
Cheers
Robert

VJF · Post by **VJF** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:33 pm

Thanks again, Robert, for your detailed explanation.
You say it's simpel. Simpel, but a lot of work!

So my question had to be: do you know a way to change the font without changing the symbol font.

The search and replace does not seem to work.[/quote]

Post by **admin** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:38 pm

If your document is formatted with the same style (for example, with “Normal”), you could change the font face of the "Normal" style (Format | Style > Modify > Font > Name). The symbols would not be affected by this.

VJF · Post by **VJF** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:04 pm

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
That 's it.

It brings me a next question: what about macro's in Atlantis?

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