4-up booklet printing on Minolta PagePro 1250W laser printer

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4-up booklet printing on Minolta PagePro 1250W laser printer

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Windows Millenium Edition
OceanMind 1.5.2.0a3

With Print booklets: 4 Pages per booklet
Print cut lines
Pages per sheet side: 4
Scale to paper size:
US Legal, 8 1/2x14 in
for Page Format
Custom 4.25" wide x 7" high Portrait

The backsides of the sheets have the wrong pages on them, it looks like the backsides were printed in reverse order, i.e., the first sheet has the last sheet's pages printed on the backside and the last sheet has the first sheet's pages printed on the backside.

I have both a HP DeskJet 540 inkjet printer and a Minolta PagePro 1250W laser printer connected to the computer. Originally only the HP was connected and it does booklet printing fine.

For the PagePro I went to Two-sided printing Options ... I set it for print is manual duplex and prints the face-up side of the sheet in the input tray. This is all that I can set under Options ...

The problem seems to be that the PagePro puts the printed sheets Printed side down in the ouput tray while the HP puts them Printed side up in the output tray. I could not find a setting for that condition to program duplex printing for the PagePro. How do I set that for the PagePro so it prints booklets correctly?

I did a Search on the site looking for Beta Testing information, requirements to do the testing & how to do Bug reports, and could not find that information. I also did a Google site search for the same thing and came up blank. Please direct me to that information as this is my first time doing beta testing.
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Re: I did a Search on the site looking for Beta Testing info

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Anonymous wrote: I did a Search on the site looking for Beta Testing information, requirements to do the testing & how to do Bug reports, and could not find that information. I also did a Google site search for the same thing and came up blank. Please direct me to that information as this is my first time doing beta testing.
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The problem seems to be that the PagePro puts the printed sheets Printed side down in the ouput tray while the HP puts them Printed side up in the output tray. I could not find a setting for that condition to program duplex printing for the PagePro. How do I set that for the PagePro so it prints booklets correctly?
In other words, one of your printers prints on the front side of sheets from the input tray, another one prints to the reverse side of of sheets from the input tray.

In order to print documents in two-sided mode properly, Atlantis requires some basic information about each of your installed printers. When you try to print a document in a two-sided mode in Atlantis for the first time, Atlantis asks you to specify two-sided options for the selected printer. If you try to print with a different printer, Atlantis asks you to specify two-sided options for this printer too. Most probably that you specified wrong two-sided options for your Minolta PagePro. Please choose “File | Print”, select Minolta PagePro from the list of installed printers, then click the bottommost “Options...” button (right to the “Two-sided printing” check box), and specify proper information. As I understand, it is not duplex. So you should specify that it is not duplex, then click Next, and choose a different box on the second page of options (if you previously specified that your Minolta PagePro prints on the front side of pages, you should now specify that it prints on the reverse side; and vice versa – if you previously specified that your Minolta PagePro prints on the reverse side of pages, you should now specify that it prints on the font side).

Any adjustments made to the two-sided options of your Minolta, would not affect your other printers. Each printer on your system has its own two-sided options in Atlantis.
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I think if I do what you say I can get booklets to print properly but the message to place the stack of sheets printed only on one side back into the input tray will tell me to put them in up-side down and if I follow that they will come out with two sets of pages printed on side of a sheet and the opposite side will be blank. I guess that is the problem I am trying to point out. I will do as you say to see if it works correctly but I know that I will have to check the radio button in Options ... that indicates wrongly on which side of a sheet in the input tray the PagePro prints on.
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If the two-sided options specified by you are correct, and if you use ordinary printer that feeds paper sheets starting from the topmost sheet in the input tray (I personally never heard about printers that feed the bottommost sheet), and if you follow the onscreen instructions displayed by Atlantis, booklets should get printed properly.

If you meant something else, please explain with more details.
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The PagePro printer also feeds off the top of the stack in the input tray. The difference from an inkjet printer is instead of spraying ink down as the sheet goes out into the ouput tray the laser drum press up on the underside of the sheet as it heads out into the ouput tray. This results in the bottom side of the sheet contaning the printed text in the ouput tray instead of the top side as the inkjet printer does.
I changed the Options... to "reverse side of sheets from the input tray" and did the opposite of the message "into the input tray with the blank side facing DOWN", this gave proper printing on both sides of the sheets for a three sheet test of Print range Pages: 1-24.
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Could you please conduct the following test:

-place a sheet of paper in the input tray of your printer,
-pencil a cross on the upper surface of that sheet,
-print any 1-page document from any software.

As a result of this, a single paper sheet should be in the output tray of your Minolta.

Please tell me the following:

-Did the document text get printed on the same side as the pencilled cross?
-Did the document text get printed on the upper side of this paper sheet?
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The result of doing the test is as follows:
The pencil mark is on the same side of the paper sheet as the printed text.
The output tray has the sheet of paper blank side up, the printed text & pencil mark are against the bottom of the output tray.
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In case it helps here is a better description of the PagePro laser printer paper path.
From the bottom front of the printer a sheet is taken from the top of the input tray under the drum, where an electric charge of the print image is applied to the top of the paper. The sheet then passes under the toner cartridge where the electric charge on the paper attracts toner particles down onto the paper. From there the sheet turns up 90 degrees to pass through the fuser on the backside of the printer, there the toner particles are melted onto the paper. The sheet goes out of the fuser and turns 90 degrees toward the front of the printer where it goes into the output tray at the top front of the printer, there it drops face-down into the tray.
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Thanks for your information.

According to the User's Guide of your printer, an optional accessory - the "Face-up output tray" - is available.

Just out of cheer curiosity: do you have it?
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The old set of two-sided printing options is insufficient for proper printing in two-sided mode on your printer. Things are even more complex because your printer might be equipped with two output trays which work differently.

A new page has been added to the Two-sided Printing Options (File | Print..., Options...):

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The latest build should work properly on your system. Of course, if you specify proper two-sided printing options (prints to the front side of sheets from the input tray, and sends sheets to the output tray with the printed side facing down).
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My PagePro lase printer does not have the optiona Face-up out put tray. Thank you for adding the additional Options... parameter. I will download the latest build today.
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I am unable to test the latest build (a8) as i get "evaluation period has expired" when I try to open the document in 1.5.2.0 and the button to continue now says close.
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I have tested 4-up booklet printing with Ocean Mind 1.5.2.1 printed to the laser printer and it prints correctly.
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