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arringtonve
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Between my office and home, I use five different computers. Two at work (a desktop and laptop) and three at home (shared with my wife and four children). If I wanted to place a registered copy of Ocean Mind on each computer, how many shareware registrations must I purchase?
We currently do not offer family licenses. But please send a message to comment@rssol.com if you are interested in a custom license.
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arringtonve
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Is this standard license agreement posted anywhere on your website? The license agreement that pops up during installation of Ocean Mind does not contain these restrictions. I assume you provide another license ageement upon registration. It would be nice if that agreement were posted at your website so prospective customers could see their limitations before registering.
I realize this software is your property and you can license it as you please, but a license that restricts the software to one person on two machines or two people on one machine is the type of provision that makes open source programs like OpenOffice so much more attractive.
I realize this software is your property and you can license it as you please, but a license that restricts the software to one person on two machines or two people on one machine is the type of provision that makes open source programs like OpenOffice so much more attractive.
The current license agreement says nothing regarding this indeed because the same setup file is used by all users of Atlantis (including those who purchased site licenses). In the future we will offer different types of licenses (Personal, Family, Corporate, etc). All the restrictions of each type of license will be clearly explained, and incorporated into Atlantis itself.
Normally (if you mean "personal use") users do not need multiple copies of software. A single copy is sufficient. But as I said, the standard license allows to install to up to two PCs. But for instance, I am not sure that you would be allowed to install MS Windows to two PCs under the same license.
Also I am not sure that the most important thing for most users is how many copies of this software they are allowed to make. The main thing is whether this software can help them to do their job in a simple and convenient way with less efforts.
Your above text needs to be corrected. I said "multiple persons on a single PC" not "two persons on a single PC".but a license that restricts the software to one person on two machines or two people on one machine is the type of provision that makes open source programs like OpenOffice so much more attractive
Normally (if you mean "personal use") users do not need multiple copies of software. A single copy is sufficient. But as I said, the standard license allows to install to up to two PCs. But for instance, I am not sure that you would be allowed to install MS Windows to two PCs under the same license.
Also I am not sure that the most important thing for most users is how many copies of this software they are allowed to make. The main thing is whether this software can help them to do their job in a simple and convenient way with less efforts.
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Greetings--arringtonve wrote: I realize this software is your property and you can license it as you please, but a license that restricts the software to one person on two machines or two people on one machine is the type of provision that makes open source programs like OpenOffice so much more attractive.
First, please, let's be fair. Atlantis can be used by "multiple persons on a single PC". This is quite diferent from "two people on one machine".
As their name clearly indicates, "open source" programs do not attempt to restrict their free use at all. It would be completely absurd.
Atlantis is a paying software. Restricting software use to a single PC or to a single person on a limited number of PCs is standard practice. If users were allowed to install as many copies of Atlantis on as many PCs as they like, this would also be absurd. The Atlantis developers might as well give it away for free.
... And find themselves another job...
By the way, do you find OpenOffice "so much more attractive" because it is a better, more practical software? Or because it is free?
If you find that OpenOffice is a better, more practical software than Atlantis, there isn't much we can do or say apart from "enjoy!" We only hope that your opinion is based on a thorough investigation into the qualities of both software.
If you find that OpenOffice is "so much more attractive" because it is free, please give Atlantis a fair run.
Maybe you'll come to realize that Atlantis is worth every penny or every cent you might have to pay for it.
As a matter of fact, Atlantis is the best value for money word processor you could find.
If you have specific license requirements, please send a message to comment@rssol.com.
Things might not be as expensive as you seem to fear.
Cheers
Robert
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Arringtonve
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Please forgive me. I didn't mean to sound critical. My comments were prompted by my DOS days, when I used PC-Write, a shareware program that I registered. Upon registration, I do not recall any restrictions on the number of computers I could use the program on, and I installed it on several. I was just wondering if Atlantis had a similar license.
As to Atlantis and OpenOffice, it's really apples and oranges. I liken OpenOffice to a conversion van and Atlantis to a Mazda Miata. Atlantis is certainly faster, more stable, and easier to use than OpenOffice. I love your hierarchical way of displaying paragraph styles and the simplicity of your templates. However, in some ways, by imitating MS-Word, you have followed some conventions that make little sense. For example, shouldn't the page setup dialogs be under "Format" instead of "File"?
We all have to admit that OpenOffice can do more things with documents than Atlantis, and that's the quandary. Do I want to spend money for a Mazda Miata when there are times when I need to haul more than two people AND I can get the conversion van for free? And, when I only need to haul two, the van will still do it, even if less practically.
I have tried Ocean Mind and often finding myself wanting to use it more, but as soon as I do, I stumble on a feature it doesn't have, like automatic hyphenation, which to me is very important, or line numbering. (Another wierd feature I like about OpenOffice is its ability to control widows and orphans separately. I doubt you can do that in an RTF based program.)
So, even if I registered Atlantis, I'd have to realize that there would be times when I would need the extra features of OpenOffice. So then the question is: Are there things that I need of a program that Atlantis can do that OpenOffice can't AND are those capabilities worth spending the extra money?
Again, I'm not trying to be critical. Atlantis is a wonderful program and, someday, I may decide to purchase it. In fairness to your customers, however, I do think you need to clearly spell out the limitations of the license before they register. As it is, I'm not sure you even have any legal license rights if people don't know the limitations before buying.
As to Atlantis and OpenOffice, it's really apples and oranges. I liken OpenOffice to a conversion van and Atlantis to a Mazda Miata. Atlantis is certainly faster, more stable, and easier to use than OpenOffice. I love your hierarchical way of displaying paragraph styles and the simplicity of your templates. However, in some ways, by imitating MS-Word, you have followed some conventions that make little sense. For example, shouldn't the page setup dialogs be under "Format" instead of "File"?
We all have to admit that OpenOffice can do more things with documents than Atlantis, and that's the quandary. Do I want to spend money for a Mazda Miata when there are times when I need to haul more than two people AND I can get the conversion van for free? And, when I only need to haul two, the van will still do it, even if less practically.
I have tried Ocean Mind and often finding myself wanting to use it more, but as soon as I do, I stumble on a feature it doesn't have, like automatic hyphenation, which to me is very important, or line numbering. (Another wierd feature I like about OpenOffice is its ability to control widows and orphans separately. I doubt you can do that in an RTF based program.)
So, even if I registered Atlantis, I'd have to realize that there would be times when I would need the extra features of OpenOffice. So then the question is: Are there things that I need of a program that Atlantis can do that OpenOffice can't AND are those capabilities worth spending the extra money?
Again, I'm not trying to be critical. Atlantis is a wonderful program and, someday, I may decide to purchase it. In fairness to your customers, however, I do think you need to clearly spell out the limitations of the license before they register. As it is, I'm not sure you even have any legal license rights if people don't know the limitations before buying.
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As you said yourself, it is a convention. Conventions are not necessarily bad. Why change things when millions of worldwide users are used to these conventions?Arringtonve wrote: For example, shouldn't the page setup dialogs be under "Format" instead of "File"?
Also there is some logic in it. Page setup options are most of the time global. It is then quite natural that they should go under the "file" category.
However, if you are so unhappy with the Atlantis page setup dialog being under "File", you can use the Atlantis "Tools | Menus..." command and place the Page Setup dialog command wherever you like on the Atlantis menus. You can even rename it to anything you fancy. What more could anybody wish for?
Atlantis is not a full-blown software. It is a developing software. If it were a full-blown software with all the bells and whistles, it would be a lot more expensive than it currently is.Arringtonve wrote: I have tried Ocean Mind and often finding myself wanting to use it more, but as soon as I do, I stumble on a feature it doesn't have, like automatic hyphenation, which to me is very important, or line numbering.
You are the only one who can answer this question... Atlantis is a "try-before-you-buy" software.Arringtonve wrote: So then the question is: Are there things that I need of a program that Atlantis can do that OpenOffice can't AND are those capabilities worth spending the extra money?
But to be honest, most registered Atlantis users bought it not because it could do things that OpenOffice can't, but because they found Atlantis user-friendly and practical.
If you are looking for a software that does things that OpenOffice can't, we are sorry to say but Atlantis is not meant for you. And probably never will be.
Cheers
Robert
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Even if I didn?t find this software useful (which is not the case) I would have paid for it just to support their efforts. They are a serious team with an honest application. They deserve all of our support. And the registration fee, with all honesty, is quite a bargain.
(By the way, I?m just an happy registered user).
Regards,
Eduardo
(By the way, I?m just an happy registered user).
Regards,
Eduardo